[chiks]

Originally Posted by lyceeboo

AMEN!!!!!!!!

They are hurting the cause...American Nurses DEMANDINDING FAIR WAGEs!!!!! keep them out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey wait a minute..are u talking about discrimination here ?Being an immigrant here like my self is not so easy...were paying taxes as much as u do guys..we are spending dollars not filipino money..were also working our butt here in order to survive..were not just sitting and waiting for ur help..so ur talking fair..anyway thats not the issue...i cant understand why that happened..something is wrong with the processing..being a nurse entails legal reponsibility and accountability..theres no way the hospital will allow one of their workers espescially nurses with expired visas..NO WAY!! coz if something happen to the patient who will the patient gonna blame? not only the nurse per se but of course dollars..MILLION of dollars..something is really wrong..and plus her family is with her and plus shes driving a car???dont u think so something is wrong..She had a driver liscence for GOD sakes and she cant have a legal document that she is overstaying here?I thought u can know everything through your SSS here..something is wrong with the processing, its not fair .....

[shrek]

They let thier Visas expire, they have to go. You will always find someone who has a problem with the government doing the job they are supposed to. The same people will also have a problem just because the government is involved at all . If you are not a citizen, mind your own business, and your own country. If you have such a problem and are a citizen find a new country.

[Roo71]

Wow. I wonder what poor conditions these people have left behind in their home country. So much hostility shown towards this family on this board and so close to christmas

[mercyteapot]

Originally Posted by Roo71

Wow. I wonder what poor conditions these people have left behind in their home country. So much hostility shown towards this family on this board and so close to christmas

If we let everyone single person in the world that faces poor conditions at home come here and stay forever, we'd have to pile on top of each other to fit. There simply have to be rules balancing the benefits of immigration with the effects it has on our infrastructure. And if someone chooses not to follow those rules, for whatever reason they believe they have, then they don't deserve to be here in the first place. It has nothing to do with discrimination.

If it turns out that Homeland Security has made a mistake, I hope this family is able to stay. Otherwise, this woman just needs to accept the consequences of her actions, or lack thereof.

[pinoyNP]

Not knowing the details surrounding the case, I personally think I can not form any further judgment on the matter other than the fact that the nurse and her family do not have the legal documents to allow them to stay in the US and should face the consequence of being in such a predicament. However, what surprises me is that their illegal immigrant status was discovered on a seemingly routine stop by a traffic enforcement officer. This is something uncommonly heard of during the time I first arrived in this country on a working visa. I am a naturalized American now but I wonder, with my brown skin and undeniably "foreign" physical attributes, will I be routinely asked for my US passport or certificate of naturalization every time I get pulled over for a traffic violation?

[mercyteapot]

Originally Posted by pinoyNP

Not knowing the details surrounding the case, I personally think I can not form any further judgment on the matter other than the fact that the nurse and her family do not have the legal documents to allow them to stay in the US and should face the consequence of being in such a predicament. However, what surprises me is that their illegal immigrant status was discovered on a seemingly routine stop by a traffic enforcement officer. This is something uncommonly heard of during the time I first arrived in this country on a working visa. I am a naturalized American now but I wonder, with my brown skin and undeniably "foreign" physical attributes, will I be routinely asked for my US passport or certificate of naturalization every time I get pulled over for a traffic violation?

My husband works in restaurants and a lot of his employees are Hispanic. Several of them have been stopped by cops before for no other reason than walking or driving while brown. It does happen. Still, I'm not sure it's time to call the cops for profiling this family yet. Isn't it possible that the expired visa popped when the cop called the license in?

[pinoyNP]

Originally Posted by mercyteapot

My husband works in restaurants and a lot of his employees are Hispanic. Several of them have been stopped by cops before for no other reason than walking or driving while brown. It does happen. Still, I'm not sure it's time to call the cops for profiling this family yet. Isn't it possible that the expired visa popped when the cop called the license in?

Whether it's racial profiling or not, I find it hard to believe that today's traffic law enforcement officers possess a level of sophistication in terms of tracking illegal immigrants with the touch of a button on a squad car's computer keyboard. If that is truly the case, why not raid the family right in their own home. Like another poster already commented, this nurse has a driver's license and social security number because she was once legally allowed to stay and work in the US. She was in no way acting like a fugitive, heck, she even works at some nursing home it seems. She probably even filed W2 forms last year and plans to do so next year had she not been busted. But I am in no position to make any assumptions other than the fact the times have changed...

[mercyteapot]

Cops just call your license in and any crime that's in your file will pop- it doesn't have much to do with the level of sophistication of any given cop. What's in the system will show up.

[pinoyNP]

Hmmmm, how I learn something everyday...well, then that just confirmed my theory that checking for whether a person is an illegal immigrant or not is now routine when someone is stopped for a traffic violation. Because I can honestly say that many years ago this was not the case. I am basing this on actual incidences from individuals I personally know who had expired work visas and were stopped for speeding and were let go with just a speeding ticket. These guys were allowed to go about their "criminal existence". Can you believe the cops just turned their cheeks on those guys? Like I said, the only certainty I have in all of my comments is that times have truly changed.

[ocn_wanna_be]

Originally Posted by pinoyNP

Hmmmm, how I learn something everyday...well, then that just confirmed my theory that checking for whether a person is an illegal immigrant or not is now routine when someone is stopped for a traffic violation. Because I can honestly say that many years ago this was not the case. I am basing this on actual incidences from individuals I personally know who had expired work visas and were stopped for speeding and were let go with just a speeding ticket. These guys were allowed to go about their "criminal existence". Can you believe the cops just turned their cheeks on those guys? Like I said, the only certainty I have in all of my comments is that times have truly changed.

Truely so. Look what happened to Spain recently. I think the sentiment most people have toward immigration is universal. If there were more iranian immigrants coming into my birth country and had I still live there, I might have said something very unkind toward them (specially over the internet) b/c I am no where near being perfect and it is tempting.

What borther me the most is how some people inisisted on attaching an amnesity bill to immigraiton reform package that would have really helped to the fix problem for all legal immigrants who left everything they had behind, followed the rule, worked hard, and invested their life into this country.

Sadly though, in near future, law breakers will reap the benefit for their "criminal exisntance" while honest people played by the rule will be force to leave and will lose everything they have invested in this country.