[bethin]

The nurses and aides have been arguing for some time about addiction. A nursing student told a nurse that a patient cannot get addicted to narcotics IF they only take the medication when they are in pain and they take it as prescribed concerning time and dosage. Makes sense. She said a pain specialist came to her university to discuss this with them.

Many nurses disagree. Our hospital is notorious as one that believes if you take a narcotic pain medication more than once a day then you are addicted. If an order is written for 1-2 pain pills the nurse will only bring one, even if pt requested 2. Then, if one hour later same pt is still in severe pain they will not administer the second pain pill. Is there anything wrong with taking the second pain pill an hour later than receiving the first?

Can anyone give me some good reliable links regarding these questions while posting your thoughts? It angers me that people think if you take a narcotic then you are an addict. Right me if I'm wrong, but I always thought an addict takes medication without having pain, purely to get high and takes more than the required dose.

A pet peeve: the nurses that roll their eyes when I tell them that a pt needs pain meds even if they're post op. Like I said, we are notorious.

[augigi]

There is no excuse for giving inadequate analgesia from ignorance about addiction.

Great link for the issues:
http://www.ahrq.gov/clinic/medtep/acute.htm

There is just so much research about this topic that it's unforgiveable to be so inflexible from lack of education. It's so much harder to relieve pain than to prevent it.

Do you have a pain management department/specialist you can organize to talk to the unit as an in-service?

Grrr.. this is a pet hate of mine.

[Tweety]

Good grief, I can't believe nurses in this day and age still think that a patient who needs pain medicine in the hospital will become a drug addict. Hmmm.........they've had their belly sliced open to remove their colon.......better be careful with the pain medicine because they might become a drug addict these few days they are here. sheesh..............

Good luck. Sounds like a pain inservice is needed. Good luck with gathering up the information.

[augigi]

Can't figure out how to attach it (too big) but have a couple articles if you want to PM me your email addy.

[RebeccaJeanRN]

Originally Posted by bethin

The nurses and aides have been arguing for some time about addiction. A nursing student told a nurse that a patient cannot get addicted to narcotics IF they only take the medication when they are in pain and they take it as prescribed concerning time and dosage. Makes sense. She said a pain specialist came to her university to discuss this with them.

Can anyone give me some good reliable links regarding these questions while posting your thoughts? It angers me that people think if you take a narcotic then you are an addict. Right me if I'm wrong, but I always thought an addict takes medication without having pain, purely to get high and takes more than the required dose.

One is NOT an addict because of taking meds that are needed. Pain control is a good thing and denial of that pain control, especially when ordered, is cruel and not within the standards of nursing practice. However, that being said I'd also like to offer that an addict often doesn't seek meds to get high. After one is addicted, meds are sought after just to feel normal and avoid withdrawal. The fun part is usually over for the real addict. We were taught not to concern ourselves about the idea that our patient, who is now post-op and asking for pain med, may also have had an outside drug problem before entering the hospital (at least with regard to giving pain control). We were told to give the pain medication as ordered and to consider pain management as a humane practice, regardless. Your fellow nurses are practicing against the current standard. Current nursing texts should have lots to say that you can copy and quote about pain management standards and goals. I remember one study about how people healed faster and were released from the hospital sooner, when their pain was managed better from the get-go.

[NRSKarenRN]

Have you checked our many website links posted here: Pain Management Resources

Especially:

What is Pain:

Avoiding Misconceptions in Pain Management
One main reason for this undertreated pain is the existence of several myths and misconceptions regarding pain management. Goal of this summary to dispel these myths and misconceptions.
Free registration required.
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/418521


Nursing2002 Study Reveals Nurses Know Pain But Not Narcotics

Research over the last 20 years has shown that fewer than 1% of patients who use a strong narcotic to control pain become addicted, even when they use the drug for 6 months or more.

Algorithm for Pain Assessment and Management
AHRQ: Government guidelines for Acute and Chronic Pain:
Assessment and Management of Acute Pain Assessment Algorithm added 4/23/06
Assessment and Management of Chronic Pain Assessment Algorithm added 4/23/06
Management Algorithm


Adult Pain Management Staff Education --has pain scales shown
http://www.med.umich.edu/pain/apainmgt.htm


Does your facility have a pain management specialist on staff??
If not, please ask Nurse manager for inservice as sounds like facility not keeping up with JCAHO standard that pain be assessed and treated adequately.

[Tweety]

Good links Karen. I was going to go to my school's website and look for some scholarly articles, but those are great because they list references.

[NRSKarenRN]

From Nursing Spectrum:

The WHYs of Pain Mismanagement: Is Your Bias Showing?
Lorraine Steefel, RN, MSN
Masthead Date July 02, 2001
http://community.nursingspectrum.com...e.cfm?AID=4349

Though less than 1% of any patient population becomes addicted to pain-relieving opioid analgesics, many nurses believe the percentage is much higher, which leads to bias and subsequent undermedication.

I encourage EVERYONE to read Pain : Clinical Manual
by Margo McCaffery and Chris Pasero --THE Nursing Experts in Pain Control




http://www3.us.elsevierhealth.com/PAIN/preface.html


Just added to pain resource thread:

City of Hope's Pain Management Resources added 9/06
Multiple educational articles, books and publications listed

[vamedic4]

QUOTE Many nurses disagree. Our hospital is notorious as one that believes if you take a narcotic pain medication more than once a day then you are addicted. If an order is written for 1-2 pain pills the nurse will only bring one, even if pt requested 2. Then, if one hour later same pt is still in severe pain they will not administer the second pain pill. Is there anything wrong with taking the second pain pill an hour later than receiving the first?

The answer to your question is NO, there's nothing wrong with it. If the doctor orders it for pain, then it should be given. And if it's not effective in relieving the pain, he should be called back and other options should be given to the patient.
It is unfortunate that nurses should be so ignorant of pain issues, but until you've expereinced it yourself-be it acute or chronic pain, you have no idea.


Sounds like your nurses need some SERIOUS education about pain issues. I'm with others here, as pain management is a HUGE pet peeve of mine. Several doctors at one facility I used to work felt the same way as the nurses until they were adequately educated...unfortunately it's not just nurses out there who are inadequately informed.

People who take narcotics therapeutically often do so to PREVENT painful episodes, such as those that occur with conditions like cancer pain, migraines, neuropathies, et cetera. All of these patients are followed by physicians and closely monitored in terms of dosage and effectiveness.
They become dependent on these meds because their bodies have become accustomed to the effects in their system- the main effect and the ENTIRE REASON THEY TAKE THEM is for relief of pain. Does this mean they are addicted?? NO. Does this mean they will suffer withdrawal if they don't take the meds?? YES. Withdrawal results from a lack of the therapeutic level of the medicine in the patient's body.
Example, patient takes 30 mg MS Contin 3x/day for chronic back pain. If they have always done this dosing regimen, then cutting their dose to twice a day will cause them to suffer withdrawal symptoms because the level of drug they are "accustomed" to is not in their system. Eventually their bodies will recover and adjust to the new dosage, but it doesn't mean they're ADDICTED. I hate that word.

vamedic4
hoping to clear the air

[NRSKarenRN]

Do doctors and nurses say that Hypertensive patients are "addicted to their blood pressure meds" despite need for increased dosage to control elevated BP?

Do doctors and nurses say that Diabetic patients are "addicted to their diabetic meds" despite need for increased dosage to maintain control over elevated blood sugars???

Then why should patients with pain be treated any differently?

To have adequate relief to be able to function in daily life is all most people with acute/chronic pain are asking for...