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Old Jun 28, 2007, 10:29 AM
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to give or not to give, that is the question??8)

Man in the ER. Found on the ground by landlord. Last seen normal 10 days ago.Come in with slurred speech ( resolving), R side weakness ( uper worse then lower). Sodium 165. Urine output about 50 cc/h. Ct unsure between ICH vs tumor. Waiting for MRI. CK normal and no myoglobine in the urine but very dark tea colour. Order to infuse ,45 saline at 100 cc/h. Are you going with the order and why?

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Old Jun 28, 2007, 11:21 AM
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Man in the ER. Found on the ground by landlord. Last seen normal 10 days ago.Come in with slurred speech ( resolving), R side weakness ( uper worse then lower). Sodium 165. Urine output about 50 cc/h. Ct unsure between ICH vs tumor. Waiting for MRI. CK normal and no myoglobine in the urine but very dark tea colour. Order to infuse ,45 saline at 100 cc/h. Are you going with the order and why?
Need other labs - Bun/Cr? Lytes? Serum osmo? If you cannot rule out a head bleed, DO NOT give dextrose!


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Old Jun 28, 2007, 11:32 AM
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Re: to give or not to give, that is the question??8)

I would consider 1/4 saline with a sodium level of 165.

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Old Jun 30, 2007, 11:41 AM
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Need other labs - Bun/Cr? Lytes? Serum osmo? If you cannot rule out a head bleed, DO NOT give dextrose!
*** Sorry, I was just covering that patient while the RN was on break. I believe no osmo was done. creatine was normal. Potassium was normal I believe. As for the dextrose comment. I was thought any hypotonic solution could cause shift of fluids into cell wich is a very bad idea with someone in is condition. The problem is that sodium.


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