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Old May 18, 2000, 02:39 AM
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What is your feelings abbout this and what is your hospital policy. Have any of you read any articles on this subject.
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Old May 18, 2000, 07:43 AM
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While I was working over this past summer as a student nurse extern in a VA hospital, we had a very unexpected code one night. The family was in the room when the cl started to code. Subsequently, the daughter, who was a nurse insisted on staying during CPR. The MD's were resistant to the idea, but she insisted. Although it was very emotional for her (and I-this was my first code), I think (in the end)it gave her peace of mind to know that everything possible was done to resuscitate her father. She did not physically interfere in the room, but did cry and yell alot. As a student, I did not know what to make out of the entire situation, so I just held her hand quietly. Sometimes words are better left unsaid....

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Old May 18, 2000, 11:25 AM
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In my working hospital, we do not let relatives presence at bedside while doing resucitation or invasive procedures. We think those procedures will make the relatives sad and fear. We will ask the relatives wait at the waiting area a movement. After the procedures, we will let them come in again.

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Old May 20, 2000, 09:05 PM
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I work in a large midwest level one trauma center and I do let pts families' at the bedside during resuscitation. I have had good experiences. It is necessary to have a nurse or social worker assigned just to the family so that everything can be explained. The physicians, residents and med students have varying degrees of comfort with this. I also did this in a VA hospital in Indpls several times, several years ago with good results also. It gives the family a sense that everything is being done. We don't do this all the time. I don't think it helps the families to see us repeatedly sticking their loved one, especially a child. Also CPR is aggressive, its a legitimate action in a code and one most lay people are familiar with. I don't allow families in during central line placement or a procedure where sterility is important. However, if there is time, I always explain to the pt and family what is going to happen and what they will see. Good luck.

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Old May 24, 2000, 04:55 AM
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Originally posted by JWV:
What is your feelings abbout this and what is your hospital policy. Have any of you read any articles on this subject.
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I have had more famlies call a code than a doctor. They see all what we do and are able to let go of their loved one. I sometimes cry with them.. and I've been in ER for 10yrs and nursing for 20+ years...I'm still not done

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Old May 25, 2000, 03:22 PM
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Hi there I work in a general intensive care and although we let relatives be present when they are dying ie if treatment has been withdrawn we do not let them stay whilst there are invasive procedures going on and if the patient has a cardiac arrest than they are asked to leave alon with other relatives in to visit other patients.
How ever I don't think there is anything wrong in allowing relatives to stay during resuscitation aslong as there is a member of staff to stay with the relative as it can be a very frightening sight - Can you remember your first cardiac arrest???
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Old May 30, 2000, 08:25 AM
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I just found this article on this topic and thought some of you may be interested: http://www2.nurses.com/content/news/...ature+Articles

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Old Jun 01, 2000, 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by JWV:
What is your feelings abbout this and what is your hospital policy. Have any of you read any articles on this subject.
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ER nurse l5+ years, find the "new" family present during codes very stressful on the staff. The last two = one who claimed to be a "nurse" (but had little knowledge of ACLS procedures) watched, took notes, and critiqued the code; the second the family member took turns standing, sitting, pacing and sobbing the entire time and there was nobody on staff available to help her. The staff stress comes from having to mind your manners and NOT be able to fall into the "gallows humor" ERs are famous for - as unprofessional as it may seem to non-er people, the off the wall comment, is really a tension breaker and helps to keep the code team going during a long effort. Personal opinion is that family present is not a good trend and should be the exception rather then the usual practice.


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Old Jun 02, 2000, 01:54 AM
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I am totally agree to do so!!

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Old Jun 07, 2000, 08:59 PM
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I did a presentation on this topic for a graduate class. It is definately a double edged sword. I think it really depends on the sitation and the availablity of support personnel.

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