[yoga crna]

Calling all anesthesia students. There is currently a discussion on Old-Gas. <old-gas@yahoogroups.com> regarding the attitude of senior students and new grads. One of the posters said that a new grad was wanting a 4-6 month orientation. Others do not want to take call, do not want the major cases, and spend a good deal of their clinical time complaining.

What is going on? Other than "senioritis" that happens to most anesthesia students, if this is a prevalent attitude, I have grave concerns about our educational process.

Only AANA members, including student members can post on Old-Gas, but I hope if you have time, you will read what is being said. I dearly want to support our students, but would have a hard time, if this is a common attitude.

Yoga CRNA

[AnesthesiaBound]

I sincerely hope that this is a rarity among students. I will be starting school this summer and personally, can barely sit still. I was the same way after graduating as a nurse. True, you get tired of the daily grind in school, but if you are in it for the right reasons, you'll be excited. If someone is afraid to work, afraid to be challenged, etc, I'd say they are in it simply for the money. And that is sad.

I know several other students in other programs (Kaiser, Texas Wesleyan) and they are as excited as I am. They stay longer than anybody else. They want the difficult cases. In essence, they want to experience and learn as much as possible. I share their drive and passion and think most students do too.

Yoga, don't throw away the whole bunch because of a few bad apples. There's plenty of students with a passion for providing high-quality care to the anesthetized patient.

bj

[Brenna's Dad]

Can't seem to find the group yoga. Can you give me any other asssitance??

[gaspassah]

well yoga, i can only speak for myself. first semester student. i never want to leave clinicals. my preceptors often make me. if i start a case i want to finish it. our clinical hours run till 3 in the afternoon. i often leave closer to 5 or 6 so i can handle my patients emergence, and transfer to pacu. i often seek cases outside of the room i'm assigned, and look actively for all learning experiences that i can find.
my motto is, "i didnt travel 2/3 the way across the country to sit at my house, there aint no anesthesia going on there"
i for one want the harder cases. if you can do those. the easier ones would seem to be a breeze.
i agree with my friend anesthesiabound, dont lump us all together. each individual is just that...an individual with different motivations, and work ethics.
jmho
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[athomas91]

i must admit...i am very much like you all...the more experience and learning...the happier i am...but i will admit - there are those in my class who are whining about all kinds of stuff...i kinda made em angry when i said quit bi#$%ing and do the work..........(not all of em...just a few)

[alansmith52]

this is rare and i am just doing relay here but I have heard in some cases that crnas are not to excited to have students and somtimes "abuse" them... if thats a word.. (abuse) anyway in those cases I have heard that the student will complain inorder to try and get a diff preceptor or diff. clinical site.
hmmm. I know this happens among nurses.... could it among crna's i hope not..

[gaspassah]

that is also true, as i as of late have had a preceptor that i didnt like working with (as well as other students in my rotation) but what i did learn is that there is something to learn from every preceptor. maybe you learn things you would NOT do as well as those things you would do.
anesthesia can be performed many ways, and seeing one way you wouldnt do it can also be beneficial.
my .02
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[NCgirl]

I'm happy to say that most of my fellow classmates certainly don't have this attitude. We all want hard, complicated cases, and aren't expecting more than 4-6 weeks orientation after graduation. But we're not there yet, so all I can really say, is I guess we'll see.........

[athomas91]

i could be wrong...but my program seems pretty set on making us self-sufficient by graduation and not needing an "orientation" especially not one of 4-6 wks

[jdpete]

try more like four days where I work, and was taking in-house 24 hr-call with epidurals, and all regionals at level 2 trauma in 4 weeks by ourselves---you either sink or swim,,but we was well prepared with school,,,unlike most RN schools I know of