[alansmith52]

Our RN's do CS in the unit. usually versed Mso4 or propofol

[nrw350]

Hi,

I am rather new to allnurses.com, but I may be able to shed some light here I hope. I have had this kind of sedation recently at my oral surgeon. To be honest, I have had 3 times with him. If I am not mistaken, a CRNA is the one who in charge of the administration of whatever they gave me to knock me out. But I do know of one visit where my oral surgeon administered the drugs himself. Each time, they had me positioned where I could not see my IV, or anyone was injecting anything into it. What makes me say the doctor himself administered it once is because he was nice enough to tell me just before he started the anesthesia, and after the administration he said something to the effect of "now, lets let that cook for a moment". I know that is an odd thing for a doctor to say, but I had asked them to take things slowly with me because of some bad experiences I had when I was younger.

Is there anyway to know which drugs they used on me without asking them? I dont want to sound silly asking them what drugs they use. I dont know if this information would help, but in my opinion it took about 20 to 30 seconds for the anesthesia to take effect. I know the time may be off because those drugs alter one's perception. The anesthesia took effect gradually, but not bad at all. At first i just felt very much relaxed, then I noticed my eyes started to want to roll back in my head. Finally, I remember my vision going blurry, and then out I went.

One reason I had a bad experience when I was younger I believe is because the anesthesia (general anesthesia for eye operations) took effect extremely quickly and I could not breathe before being completely asleep. That is why, I asked my oral surgeon to take his time. I also told him of my fears and bad experiences too. I think he made a note of it of in my file because since then all the nurses have been extraodinarily kind and careing. That in and of itself has been a tremendous help. I will be going back to my oral surgeon again to get some more work done in preparation for a denture. I have bad teeth as a result of bad genes and bad childhood habits.

Sorry for the long winded post, but I really hope my information helps, and I can get some insight from everyone here.

Nick

[meandragonbrett]

They only way to find out is to look at your chart or ask the doctor. You won't sound silly asking what they are pushing. I'm a nosey pt. but the doctors and nurses seem to like that, sometimes. I want to know what they are giving me before they give it!

Brett

BTW- Welcome to the board nick. Are you in the healthcare profession?j\w

[nrw350]

Not in the profession, but am a little trained. I am an eagle scout with the life saving and first aide merit badges. I have also taken an Emergency Medical Care course as an elective in college.

It just feels strange asking them that question, and I do not really want to seem like I know it all to them. Are the sensations that I described for the procedural sedation common? Also, would you mind if I posted my bad experiences here for your comments?

Nick

[meandragonbrett]

Nick,
Go ahead and post away! :P Different people have different sensations when given concious sedation. When I have it done I always ask for a drug called "Versed" It's wonderful stuff, but can be dangerous if not used right. I don't remember anything afterwards because of the versed. Last time I had sedation they told me that I woke up during the procedure and started yelling at them. Now, I sure don't remember that one! But that's due to my best friend, Versed. Welcome to the board nick.

Brett

[nrw350]

Ok,

The same things about which I am going to described happened to me two times. Once at age 12, and again at 14 (just prior to my 15th birthday). I was going to the hospital for surgery on my eyes to correct birth defects. One of which my eye lashes were growing in reverse and scraping my eyes. The other (the surgery at age 14) was to take a skin graph and lengthen my eye lids so that they closed all the way.

A critical factor in both instances is the fact that I did not wish my parents to know that I was scared, and that I did not want to worry about me. It has always been my experience and belief that the pain I feel when family and friends worry about me is worse than any physical pain that I have endured. With this in mind, I did not tell ANYONE that I was scared. Because I did not want word getting back to my parents.

Anyway, here is basically what happened both times. I was taken to pre-op, iv started and all the usual checks. But no one told me what to expect from then on. So all I could is lay there and let things take their course.

Once in the OR, everything started to get scarrier. I remember starting to feel a little sleepy (but not too much), and I attributed it to having been laying down for about 30 minutes or so. So I just figured go on and close my eyes since the lights were bright in the OR too. All the while nurses putting ekg leads and bp monitor on me. I remember a mask being put on me. Just prior to the mask I feel something very very very cold and sharp shooting up my arm. It really hurt to say the least. Then I feel an ice cold sensation enclose around me. Starting from my hands and feet and working its way to the center. The closer it got to the center the harder it became for me to breathe. I was still "awake" when the cold reached the center and I could no longer breathe. I even remember someone telling me to breathe. But I simply could not. Of course by this time, I am totally scared out of my wits. Then there is nothing.

In post-op I remember someone ripping the ekq leads off me which also really hurt. And I remember having problems breathing there too. At age 14, I remember sitting up in the bed to catch my breath and then WHAM! I would be out cold again. I remember this happening about 3 times. I was totally miserable, and with the surgery having been near my eyes, opening them was almost impossible.

These two experiences is what started me researching anesthesia, because as I have said before I want to educate myself to limit the possibility of this happening again.

Thanks for letting me post this, and I look forward to hearing your comments.

Nick

[nrw350]

I dont think that I should have posted in this thread because I am afraid I just jynxed myself. I now have a broken tooth and it is bothering me something fierce. What worse is that my insurance had been revoked due to them changing the rules and making it manditory to be attending school full time to recieve the insurance benefit from my mom's job after the deadline to drop/add classes in college. I dont have the near 400 bucks to get this tooth removed by my oral surgeon. Whats bad is that to remove the tooth is only 80 bucks, the rest is the anesthesia expenses.

Well gotta get back to work now, catch yall later.

Nick

[bubba]

Nick,
That sounds like a really scarry experience. I'm working on being a CRNA. I will remember your story and will make every effort to prevent this from happening to others. I'm not sure if the experience you described is common, but I haven't ever heard of it before. Maybe others have?

[nrw350]

Thanks, do you mind if we chat sometime? my chat handle on both yahoo and aim is nrw350. Im me on yahoo even if you dont see me online, because I tend to stay invisible because of the pervs online.,

thanks.

nick

[Susapet]

Hi,
I have read this through now and since I am from Sweden I have problem finding out what MSO 4 is? I have the Nursing drug handbook so all the others I could find.
Hope someone will help me out.
Susanne