[NRSKarenRN]

Beg to differ that PA CRNA legislation has NOT died, still in committee and will be on the table in fall legislative session.

[n_g]

Originally Posted by NRSKarenRN

Beg to differ that PA CRNA legislation has NOT died, still in committee and will be on the table in fall legislative session.

http://www.asahq.org/news/asanews070307a.htm

July 3, 2007

Pennsylvania Legislators Withdraw Support for Nurse Anesthetist Scope of Practice Expansion

The Pennsylvania Society of Anesthesiologists is pleased to report that legislators withdrew their support for a bill that would have allowed nurse anesthetists to administer anesthesia in collaboration with a physician or dentist. H.B. 1256 would have been a first step towards an opt-out of the federal physician supervision requirement. Similar legislation has been introduced over the past six years, but there was a stronger push this year due to Governor Rendell’s proposal to create universal health care. Members of the Pennsylvania Society of Anesthesiologists testified before House committee hearings earlier in the year. While it's possible that the bill could be voted upon later this year, it appears that H.B. 1256 has died this session.
Congratulations to the Pennsylvania Society of Anesthesiologists!

[jwk]

Originally Posted by NRSKarenRN

Beg to differ that PA CRNA legislation has NOT died, still in committee and will be on the table in fall legislative session.

Legislators that originally supported the bill have withdrawn their support - although it's possible that it could reappear, it appears dead for this session.

[jwk]

Originally Posted by nurse_god

This was a bad week for CRNA's.

1) NC passes AA legislation and gov will sign
2) Louisiana legislation to allow pain management died
3) PA legislation died too

The concept that expanded AA practice is bad for CRNA's is like saying that Target opening across the street from WalMart is bad. The difference is that half of those WalMarts and Targets probably won't close in the next 15-20 years, whereas half of the anesthesia workforce will be retiring in the next 15-20 years. Plenty of room for everyone into the forseeable future.

As far as PA and LA - legislators aren't stupid. They can understand, just like the general public can, that for all the smoke and mirrors and studies, an MD and a CRNA (or NP or CNM, etc.) are not equivalent in training or knowledge. Obviously Mr. Zwerling's testimony didn't sway anyone in PA.

[NRSKarenRN]

Bill is still on the table, more hearings will be held in FALL SESSION before it is voted out of committee to entire House staff.

It is one of THREE bills to update our nurse practice act in PA. Most of language is ALREADY in our practice act, we are updating it to reflect CURRENT practice standards already in place. Need all PA nurses to continue to write/meet legislators over this issue.

PA Governor is behind legislation as part of his RX for PA plan.
So far these bills HB 1253, HB 1254, HB 1255 all pass in the House unanimously!


HB1251 and 1252 – Physicians’ Assistants
HB1253 – Certified Nurse Practitioners
HB1254 – Clinical Nurse Specialists
HB1255 – Nurse Midwives

See you in the fall.

[foraneman]

Originally Posted by janecristensen

wow,

I can't believe this is the guy who is representing our field. I know of things Dr. Zwerling was involved in years ago. Does anyone else know anything about his history?? He was a (drug) user when i heard of him. I thought it was impossible to be head of anything with that in your past, especially since morphine has an 80% lifetime relapse rate.. meaning there's an 80% chance he could still be using. I would hate for that congressman to find out that information. When we elect one of our own to represent us, we need to make sure its someone with a clean past and better interviewing skills.. i mean if you ask me, its almost as if the congressman was mocking him at times. anyone else get that impression??... oh well, whatever you do, don't forward the following link to the congressman... or to any anesthesiologist. hate for one of them to get a hold of this information. Peace. Go CRNAs !!!!...

Fortunately we do have individuals like Dr. Zwerling representing us. Individuals who think before they speak and take the time to check their facts before spouting nonsense. "He was a (drug) user when i heard of him. I thought it was impossible to be head of anything with that in your past,". That statement is so poorly thought out that it is difficult to address with a straight face. Apparently you never heard of Jan Stewart. "whatever you do, don't forward the following link to the congressman... or to any anesthesiologist. hate for one of them to get a hold of this information." Why? Because one of them would like nothing more than to declare themselves superior? Art Zwerling is on the AANA Peer Assistance Advisory Committee and has been for many years. As such, he is one of three national peer advisors for the AANA. Even the most feeble minded can grasp that this places his recovery from substance abuse in a national spotlight. Zwerling lectures in anesthesia schools and at state meetings across the country on the issue of substance abuse in anesthesia. If this is news to anybody, then THEY do not belong representing their peers.

[wnabsrna]

I don't really have any problem with AZ's history, and I think he's doing the right thing by staying so active in the substance abuse prevention programs. BUT, you've got to admit that he is a HORRIBLE public speaker. If I knew nothing about him, and watched those 2 short videos (posted on the very first post of this thread) I would think that he's a complete moron. He should take some public speech courses and try to get it together. He looks up at the roof while answer questions, or perhaps he's looking at the sky hoping answers to the panel's questions will come falling down. He says "uhhhh" before every sentences. Geez louise. He's not a good representation of the field in these videos......

[DIGNOUT]

Originally Posted by foraneman

Fortunately we do have individuals like Dr. Zwerling representing us. Individuals who think before they speak and take the time to check their facts before spouting nonsense. "He was a (drug) user when i heard of him. I thought it was impossible to be head of anything with that in your past,". That statement is so poorly thought out that it is difficult to address with a straight face. Apparently you never heard of Jan Stewart. "whatever you do, don't forward the following link to the congressman... or to any anesthesiologist. hate for one of them to get a hold of this information." Why? Because one of them would like nothing more than to declare themselves superior? Art Zwerling is on the AANA Peer Assistance Advisory Committee and has been for many years. As such, he is one of three national peer advisors for the AANA. Even the most feeble minded can grasp that this places his recovery from substance abuse in a national spotlight. Zwerling lectures in anesthesia schools and at state meetings across the country on the issue of substance abuse in anesthesia. If this is news to anybody, then THEY do not belong representing their peers.

Very, very well said.

[Little Fish]

Originally Posted by foraneman

Fortunately we do have individuals like Dr. Zwerling representing us.

Umh, don't you mean unfortunately?

I didn't think those videos were very impressive.

[deepz]

Originally Posted by Little Fish

......I didn't think those videos were very impressive.

Who do you think edited those videos, Fish? Consider the source. (A$A)

AZ is THE MAN -- a credit to nurse anesthetists and to the human race in general. Why do the docs denigrate him so and spread rumors right here on this BB?--because he calls a spade a spade. He points out that the Emperor (A$A) has no clothes.

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