[deepz]

Originally Posted by Ventjock

b/c CRNAs left and there was a shortage of providers?
or b/c AAs are less qualified?

b


d

[thezman]

There are two fully qualified anesthesia provider types accross the entire spectrum of clinical anesthesia delivery, CRNAs and Anesthesiologists. AAs by design and legislative mandates are fully dependent on anesthesiologist supervision. In many areas of the US CRNAs are autonomous providers that work in cooperation with their sugeon colleagues without anesthesiologist involvement of any sort. This includes full service pain services including interventional and implantables.

Contary to the propagana espoused by many in organized medicine there is no federal standard of care that requires anesthesiologist supervision of CRNAs. All there is a CMS regulation pertaining to billing Medicare! To date I believe 12 or so states have opted out of this requirement. Hopefully the remaining 38 will follow.

Best,

Art

[proclivity]

Originally Posted by thezman

There are two fully qualified anesthesia provider types accross the entire spectrum of clinical anesthesia delivery, CRNAs and Anesthesiologists. AAs by design and legislative mandates are fully dependent on anesthesiologist supervision. In many areas of the US CRNAs are autonomous providers that work in cooperation with their sugeon colleagues without anesthesiologist involvement of any sort. This includes full service pain services including interventional and implantables.

Contary to the propagana espoused by many in organized medicine there is no federal standard of care that requires anesthesiologist supervision of CRNAs. All there is a CMS regulation pertaining to billing Medicare! To date I believe 12 or so states have opted out of this requirement. Hopefully the remaining 38 will follow.

Best,

Art

this thread is like Charlie Brown's teacher......waa, waa, wa, wah, wah!!!

[jwk]

Originally Posted by thezman

There are two fully qualified anesthesia provider types accross the entire spectrum of clinical anesthesia delivery, CRNAs and Anesthesiologists. AAs by design and legislative mandates are fully dependent on anesthesiologist supervision. In many areas of the US CRNAs are autonomous providers that work in cooperation with their sugeon colleagues without anesthesiologist involvement of any sort. This includes full service pain services including interventional and implantables.

Contary to the propagana espoused by many in organized medicine there is no federal standard of care that requires anesthesiologist supervision of CRNAs. All there is a CMS regulation pertaining to billing Medicare! To date I believe 12 or so states have opted out of this requirement. Hopefully the remaining 38 will follow.

Best,

Art

You can't even get your own specialty's facts straight.

[Josh L.Ac.]

So if anesthesiologists are wrong for trying to limit CRNA's practice or replace them with AA's when there is a shortage [and a bigger one in a decade] of anesthesia providers, then how is it ethical for CRNA's to limit the spread of AA's when there is the previously mentioned shortage?

[proclivity]

Originally Posted by Josh L.Ac.

So if anesthesiologists are wrong for trying to limit CRNA's practice or replace them with AA's when there is a shortage [and a bigger one in a decade] of anesthesia providers, then how is it ethical for CRNA's to limit the spread of AA's when there is the previously mentioned shortage?

for the same reason that the MDAs want to limit the CRNAs.

[deepz]

As Proclivity said:

"......waa, waa, wa, wah, wah!!!"

[jwk]

Originally Posted by proclivity

for the same reason that the MDAs want to limit the CRNAs.

I love hypocrisy!

[Little Fish]

This thread is hilarious.

Anesthesiologist want to limit crna's. CRNA's want to claim equivalence to anesthesiologists and practice solo because there is a shortage of providers and the rural areas are left out if supervision is mandatory. Now there is another provider to help make up the numbers and CRNA's quit their jobs (UNM) because they hired more providers. Does any of this make sense to any of you.

There are plenty of cases for everyone. Don't be so two-faced.

And deepz, you really need to get your facts straight.

[Beggar♂]

Everyone's just trying to protect (and increase) their piece of the pie and, I think, the debate has little to do with patient access nor quality outcomes.