[hojimma]

Is this true or not?

If yes, WHEN?

provide link if possible

[core0]

Originally Posted by hojimma

Is this true or not?

If yes, WHEN?

provide link if possible

Not PhD, DNAP in 2015.

http://www.aana.com/professionaldeve...&fragment=True

David Carpenter, PA-C

[heartICU]

Originally Posted by hojimma

Is this true or not?

If yes, WHEN?

provide link if possible

First of all, CRNA is a certification, not a degree. There is a movement to get all masters' prepared nurses to the doctoral level (DNP) at some point in the future. However, a PhD is a RESEARCH degree, while the DNP is a CLINICAL degree.

[Pumpkin1621]

The Doctor of Nursing Practice is a practice-focused doctorate, rather than a traditional research-focused doctorate.The American Association of Colleges of Nursing (AACN), an accrediting agency for nursing schools (Baccalaureate and Master’s degree programs), has proposed that the DNP degree will be the entry level of education for all advanced practice nurses by 2015.Thus, anyone wishing to be a nurse practitioner (NP), clinical nurse specialist (CNS), nurse midwife (CNM) or nurse anesthetist (CRNA) will have to complete a practice doctorate, instead of the master’s degree.

OK So does this mean that if I want to be a CRNA (after 2015) I will have to go through nursing school, get experience, apply to CRNA school, and apply to a DNP program? Or will the DNP program be incorporated into the CRNA program? Could someone explain please.

[UCDSICURN]

Originally Posted by Pumpkin1621

OK So does this mean that if I want to be a CRNA (after 2015) I will have to go through nursing school, get experience, apply to CRNA school, and apply to a DNP program? Or will the DNP program be incorporated into the CRNA program? Could someone explain please.

You would graduate with your DNSc, DNP, or whatever the title will be. Take the boards, pass, then you'll be a CRNA with your Doctor of "X".

[piper_for_hire]

I believe they way that its going to work is that your DNP will be in anesthesia and there will no longer be a MSN in anesthesia. From what I'm told, the DNP program is about 1.5 years longer than the current 2.5 year NA MSN. I'm not sure if you need an MSN to apply for the DNP program. So, if any of this ever happens, it will take at least 1.5 years longer to become a CRNA and possibly even longer if you need a MSN first.

-S

[wtbcrna]

Originally Posted by Pumpkin1621

OK So does this mean that if I want to be a CRNA (after 2015) I will have to go through nursing school, get experience, apply to CRNA school, and apply to a DNP program? Or will the DNP program be incorporated into the CRNA program? Could someone explain please.

No...What it means is that it is recommened at this point, and until your state or all states boards of nursing decide to implement this recommendation all APNs still only need their master's degree. Your state board of nursing makes these changes usually based on recommendations/studies. Right now there is a big push for all APNs to get their practice doctorate to be consistent with other health practitioners....Pharmacy, PT, OT and several others have all moved to clinical practice doctorates already.

[DarrenWright]

Originally Posted by heartICU

First of all, CRNA is a certification, not a degree. There is a movement to get all masters' prepared nurses to the doctoral level (DNP) at some point in the future. However, a PhD is a RESEARCH degree, while the DNP is a CLINICAL degree.

Just to add a bit of info; depending on where the DNP program is offered, one could make it an administrative or non-research academic degree as well.

[samswim4]

I'm pretty sure the DNP will be incorporated into the Master's Program. Since the CRNA master's program is just short of a doctorate degree, I think they are going to add a few more courses to make it a doctorate program instead of a master's program. I think it's pretty similar to the Physical Therapy programs where they were all master's programs and switched to doctorate programs.

[jwk]

Originally Posted by wtbcrna

No...What it means is that it is recommened at this point, and until your state or all states boards of nursing decide to implement this recommendation all APNs still only need their master's degree. Your state board of nursing makes these changes usually based on recommendations/studies. Right now there is a big push for all APNs to get their practice doctorate to be consistent with other health practitioners....Pharmacy, PT, OT and several others have all moved to clinical practice doctorates already.

Just remember these changes (if they occur) will take decades. There are thousands of practicing CRNA's with no degree, some with a bachelor's degree, and all of them finishing since the early/mid 90's have a master's. The same is true of pharmacists, PT's, etc. The majority of them still have "the old degree". PharmD has been around for a few years, and the DPT is very new.

Also remember that the DNP degree itself means nothing as far as legal scope of practice. That is determined by state boards of nursing and/or state legislatures.