[whoopdedoo]

Originally Posted by alltsonm

I work at Beaumont Royal Oak. What I learned is that many of the poorest serviced hospitals pay the highest salaries. Serviced means poor technology, patients with lousy insurance so that by the time they show up for help there isn't much that can be done, and the physicians and medical options are often not top notch.

At Beaumont, my humble opinion, the equipment, medicines, physicians, and available procedures and tests are really excellent (at least in the top 10 for the state - just a guess) but the working atmosphere (salary, benefits, team work, fellowship, room for advancement, opportunity for salary raises, and overall pay) is mediocre.


Others in different units are welcome to argue. I would like to see if others find this not true.

And by the way, are salaries outside the hospital setting always worse? I have heard that to work in a large private practice (several MD's and a staff of maybe 10 or 15 ) pay the poorest of all.

I can tell you for sure that the "poor" hospitals do not pay their RNs more, how would that be possible if their pts are unable to pay for services? I work downtown at Receiving and we treat EVERY pt as though they carry full insurance.....that is our job- treating pts, not ensuring hospitals recover money from insurance co. We often get transfers from your hospital after they "stabilize" the pt - because ROB will not help them to their fullest ability if they are under-insured. I can say proudly that our physicians, procedures and nurses are top notch. Each hospital has its finer points, but please don't ever assume that just because you work for Beaumont and have "joined the most respected team in town" that other hospitals (even in the ghetto) cannot offer stellar care. I have friends that work at both Beaumont's and the only difference in our jobs (other than the pay) is they take care of middle to upper class pts and we see homeless, and everyday pts. Regardless of the physicians and procedures offered at a hospital that is not nearly as important as exceptional nursing care.............

[Carebear77]

Originally Posted by whoopdedoo

I can tell you for sure that the "poor" hospitals do not pay their RNs more, how would that be possible if their pts are unable to pay for services? I work downtown at Receiving and we treat EVERY pt as though they carry full insurance.....that is our job- treating pts, not ensuring hospitals recover money from insurance co. We often get transfers from your hospital after they "stabilize" the pt - because ROB will not help them to their fullest ability if they are under-insured. I can say proudly that our physicians, procedures and nurses are top notch. Each hospital has its finer points, but please don't ever assume that just because you work for Beaumont and have "joined the most respected team in town" that other hospitals (even in the ghetto) cannot offer stellar care. I have friends that work at both Beaumont's and the only difference in our jobs (other than the pay) is they take care of middle to upper class pts and we see homeless, and everyday pts. Regardless of the physicians and procedures offered at a hospital that is not nearly as important as exceptional nursing care.............

I agree with you where just because you don't have a "beaumont" doctor like the commercial says, means you get horrible treatment, so not true.
To be honest I really don't like beaumont and how some of my family and friends have been treated, where as other hospitals gave amazing care.
All my doctors are out of St. Joe Oakland, I love the hospital and the doctors.


Also, not to say anything about where you work,and I don't know what department at Detroit recieving you work in; but my brother in law was in a motor cycle accident and was in the hospital there (for 3 days) and they were HORRIBLE. They never gave a CT scan(he later had to go to another hospital and got one there, and thank god because his brain was bleeding), the nurses were literally screaming at him when he was telling them he was in pain, I could go on and on. Which I'm dissapointed with this because I will be having some of my clinical rotations there and if this is how they treat patients I don't know if I want to learn from them.
I know I'm sure there are at least 1 bad story from every hospital someone could tell. But I just wanted to ad that.
Sorry to hijack the thread

[whoopdedoo]

Originally Posted by Carebear77

I agree with you where just because you don't have a "beaumont" doctor like the commercial says, means you get horrible treatment, so not true.
To be honest I really don't like beaumont and how some of my family and friends have been treated, where as other hospitals gave amazing care.
All my doctors are out of St. Joe Oakland, I love the hospital and the doctors.


Also, not to say anything about where you work,and I don't know what department at Detroit recieving you work in; but my brother in law was in a motor cycle accident and was in the hospital there (for 3 days) and they were HORRIBLE. They never gave a CT scan(he later had to go to another hospital and got one there, and thank god because his brain was bleeding), the nurses were literally screaming at him when he was telling them he was in pain, I could go on and on. Which I'm dissapointed with this because I will be having some of my clinical rotations there and if this is how they treat patients I don't know if I want to learn from them.
I know I'm sure there are at least 1 bad story from every hospital someone could tell. But I just wanted to ad that.
Sorry to hijack the thread

Hey Carebear,

I work in the ED at DRH......I can tell you that I am a bit surprised that a motorcycle accident pt would not be visiting CT (I am in no way not saying it did not happen) especially if they came in as a trauma. As for nurses yelling - that is horrible. Like you said, there is a bad story for each hospital (maybe more than one). I have seen sub-par nursing care there, and every other hospital I did my clinical rotations in when I was in school. I have had family members have bad experiences at St John, Henry Ford and Beaumont when it comes to nursing care.....so no hospital is exempt. It is sad. When you end up rotating through DRH I hope you have a great experience. Not every nurse there treats pts like that......there are some that clearly are suffering from "burnout" and need to move on..........It makes the rest of us look bad.

Best of luck to you!

[pinoyNP]

Originally Posted by Carebear77

I agree with you where just because you don't have a "beaumont" doctor like the commercial says, means you get horrible treatment, so not true.
To be honest I really don't like beaumont and how some of my family and friends have been treated, where as other hospitals gave amazing care.
All my doctors are out of St. Joe Oakland, I love the hospital and the doctors.


Also, not to say anything about where you work,and I don't know what department at Detroit recieving you work in; but my brother in law was in a motor cycle accident and was in the hospital there (for 3 days) and they were HORRIBLE. They never gave a CT scan(he later had to go to another hospital and got one there, and thank god because his brain was bleeding), the nurses were literally screaming at him when he was telling them he was in pain, I could go on and on. Which I'm dissapointed with this because I will be having some of my clinical rotations there and if this is how they treat patients I don't know if I want to learn from them.
I know I'm sure there are at least 1 bad story from every hospital someone could tell. But I just wanted to ad that.
Sorry to hijack the thread

Those are strong allegations questioning whether a specific hospital followed the standard of care for a patient admitted after a motorcycle accident. I suggest you do not bring up such issues in this forum (refer to this website's terms of service). If indeed this happened, there are avenues for reporting such incidences.

[Carebear77]

Originally Posted by pinoyNP

Those are strong allegations questioning whether a specific hospital followed the standard of care for a patient admitted after a motorcycle accident. I suggest you do not bring up such issues in this forum (refer to this website's terms of service). If indeed this happened, there are avenues for reporting such incidences.

I was making a comment and something I witnessed, I dont see why it was prob.

[pinoyNP]

Originally Posted by Carebear77

I was making a comment and something I witnessed, I dont see why it was prob.

Please refer to this post: http://allnurses.com/forums/f154/ple...ng-234493.html

[munursingstudent]

Originally Posted by pinoyNP

Please refer to this post: http://allnurses.com/forums/f154/ple...ng-234493.html

FYI, there is a typo in the post that is referenced above. It states that those things "should be posted here". I think you were going for "should not be".

[pinoyNP]

"no potentially libelous information about specific schools, instructors, or health care facilities/entities should be posted in these forums"

...I don't suppose there was a typo in this statement. I think sirI was pretty clear about it.

[munursingstudent]

Originally Posted by pinoyNP

"no potentially libelous information about specific schools, instructors, or health care facilities/entities should be posted in these forums"

...I don't suppose there was a typo in this statement. I think sirI was pretty clear about it.

My apologies. You are correct. I totally missed that! Sorry

[medic2crna]

Actually, if her brother in fact did not receive a c-scan, than she is not and cannot be called libelous. Libel is when you make statements that you know were not true. I feel that there was no error here. Facts are facts.

Rob