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Old Aug 08, 2007, 01:00 PM
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Re: Vap

My hospital regularly has no-VAP parties!! We haven't had any in the 3+ years that I have either worked in the ICU or worked in the step down from CTICU. Pretty amazing. Lots of oral care. Get those secretions at the back of the throat (tests the gag reflex as well)!

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Old Aug 31, 2007, 07:45 PM
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Re: Vap

Just curious....

But do those of you who have seen a decrease or no incidence in VAP use the Hi-Lo ETT or an ETT with a suction just above the ETT cuff?

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Old Sep 01, 2007, 04:23 AM
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Re: Vap

We use the Hi-Lo ETTs. I absolutely love them!

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Old Sep 02, 2007, 01:25 PM
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Re: Vap

We are using Sage oral care products but have considered going to chlorhex. Some of the staff are resistant because of staining of the teeth can be a problem with chlorhexadine. Have any of you experienced a problem with this?

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Old Sep 02, 2007, 01:45 PM
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Re: Vap

Originally Posted by meandragonbrett View Post
With agresssive use of the ventilator bundle, we have completely eliminated VAP from our unit. We've not had a case of VAP in 21 months.
Same here, we're going on 3 years with no VAP, using the bundle...

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Old Sep 02, 2007, 04:21 PM
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Re: Vap

As at other institutions we use the IHI Ventilator Bundle
1. HOB up 30 to 45 degrees unless medically contraindicated
2. Sedation Vacation or Daily Awakening
3. Peptic Ulcer Prophylaxis
5. DVT Prophylaxis

Other initiatives
* Use of a CASS (continuous airway sub-glottal suction) tube to intubate on any patient going to the ICU or any re-intubation
* No break in the ventilator circuit during transportation (or any other time for that matter)
*Squirting NS down the tube it is a "no-no"!!!
* Vent tubing is no longer changed frequently (remember when we used to change it every 24 hours??)
* Religious oral care or "interventional" hygiene as we like to call it
* Pushing patients to early extubation. Our theory is, if we don't have to reintubate a few of them............then we are not getting them off the vent soon enough
*Handwashing, handwashing, handwashing!
*Changing the Yankauer every 24 hours and keeping it covered
*Maintaining separate suction canisters (the CASS tube separate from oral suction separate from CT suction separate from rectal tube suction, etc.)
* We also use an acronym......"WHAP the VAP"
Wean Early
Hand Hygiene
Aspiration Precautions
Prevent Cross Contamination

I'm sure there are a few more that I have forgotten.

We are by no means perfect and the VAP rate varies between our cardiac ICU, medical ICU, surgical ICU, and neuro ICU............but many of the units have sustained a zero VAP rate for quite some time.


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Old Sep 12, 2007, 02:01 PM
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Re: Vap

Hi,
The hospital that I work at is participating in a VAP study (sorry but I can't remember the name of the study).. Up until now we have not done much to prevent VAP but now have adopted the VAP bundle as in an earlier post. I did not see comment on use of the EVAC tube which is now common practice in our unit.
I think is is great that we are providing care that is evidenced based now and not doing things because "that's just the way we do things" with no rationale behind it.
Time will tell the effectiveness of our new adapted ways as our VAP rate was very high.
D in ON

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