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Old Jun 15, 2008, 11:04 PM
MissAnthrope (Female)
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The eternal K+ debate

I have always heard that oral K+ is quicker and "better" to give than IV. I worked for a long time in a facility where the policy was to use oral unless contraindicated or denied by MD order. All patients got 20 meq po according to K+ level every couple hours or so. Our IV K+ was 10 meq over 1 hour x4 or 6 depending on level, and if by central line, the limit was over a half an hour if the need was critical.

So now I'm at a facility where their policy doesn't state a preference either way, and the nurses give 40 meq over 1 hour and repeat in 6 hours if needed. Thats the only dose the riders come in...40 meq in 100ml NS. My mind was blown - that seemed like a huge amount to me. Thing is, its an MICU and everyone has PICCs, so its always given IV. I give the oral solution if it falls on me to do it - now, if it gets started IV, I continue it that way, of course. And if they're intubated, I put the oral down the tube.

I've been looking online at articles and standard of care recs, but found nothing so far, although I'll keep looking. But I wanted to poll others and see what everyone else thinks..and if I am wrong, to correct me.

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Old Jun 15, 2008, 11:30 PM
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Re: The eternal K+ debate

In our hospital (I work in CCU) we replace K+ both po and iv depending on what the dr orders, but iv K+ is never to be stronger than 10meq over an hour. If the pt has a central line we can give in 50cc of fluid for pt in CHF, but still to be ran over an hour. I guess if pt has a such a critical low K+ that it is causing a lethal arrhythmias it could be given faster but not ever seen it if the 5 yrs I have been a nurse.

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Old Jun 16, 2008, 07:35 AM
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Re: The eternal K+ debate

we give mostly IV KCl (only through central line though). our [] is 20mEq/50cc, and we give as much as 20mEq/hr. right now im replacing 80mEq over 6 hrs..

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Old Jun 16, 2008, 06:38 PM
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Re: The eternal K+ debate

Most protocols I have seen say that potassium should be replaced orally as a first line intervention "where clinically feasible". If it has to be given IV it should be given at the rate ordered by the doctor.

You should have a hospital policy/procedure about potassium administration - I would check with your pharmacy.

I would think the docs at a minimum should be ordering (for example) "KCL 10 mEq infused over 1 hour".

Having worked on a unit where we had a patient death after inadvertent bolus of KCL, I just don't understand how some people are so blase about the potential danger.

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Old Jun 16, 2008, 09:53 PM
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Re: The eternal K+ debate

It has been my experience that oral K covers faster than IV. My concern about giving IV K is that our pharmacy mixes the K coverage in 250ml! Don't they know that heart patients usually need fluid restrictions??!! Giving K coverage in 50-100ml can cause severe pain for the patient so we only give those in a central line.

I have seen Lidocaine used in K mixes to reduce the infusion discomfort. Is anybody else doing this?

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Old Jun 16, 2008, 10:14 PM
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Re: The eternal K+ debate

We use both p.o. and I.V. K+. Our peripheral max is 60 mmol/L and our central max is 1:1. We titrate our 1:1's based on hourly serum levels until it stabilizes. We don't treat until it's <3.0 though.

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Old Jun 17, 2008, 07:05 PM
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Re: The eternal K+ debate

I asked another doc (pulmonologist) the other day if elixir was truly the faster way to replace K+ and he said, yes that was correct. He also seemed shocked at the amount this facility uses IV. He said the max he knew of was 20 mEq an hour.

But I cannot find any clinical studies to correlate. Anyone know of any?

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Old Jun 17, 2008, 08:36 PM
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Re: The eternal K+ debate

Studies to "correlate" what?

There is plenty of info about potassium infusion safety and med error prevention at the JCAHO website.

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Old Jun 18, 2008, 01:03 AM
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Re: The eternal K+ debate

I hope when you say ..."if they are intubated you put the K+ down the tube..." you mean the NG or Oralgastric tube, not ET.

In our hospital, runs of K+ IV is the preferable way to get the k+ straightened out pronto, each run is 10 mEq in 100ml of NS to run over one hour. Two nurses must verify the medication and sign it off. We usually have a baseline IV running as well, if possible, as K+ can burn while infusing.

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Old Jun 18, 2008, 08:45 PM
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Re: The eternal K+ debate

We use 20 mEq in 100cc over 1 hour, unless we have only peripheral access, then it's 10 mEq's over 1 hour. We administer and recheck until K+ in greater that 4.0.

If serum K+ is 3.6-4.0 we replace with a 20 rider, if it's 3.0-3.5 we use 40. Less than 3.0, we start replacing and call the MD. But we still administer as above.

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