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  #11  
Old Dec 01, 2006, 11:31 PM
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Re: Tell all about Arkansas!

tell all about Arkansas, Gee I only have a week of vacation,but I will start by saying this is a beautiful place to live, the people are ,as a rule ,very nice, helpful and friendly. The LPN pay is probably not the best but there are other states that pay less. Education for your children is pretty good, at least in the smaller towns. We have alot of things going on here, state parks etc. What else would you like to know?

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Old Dec 02, 2006, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Ex130Load View Post
Am a retiree in the Little Rock area. Yeah, there are a lot of nice things to be said of AR. Same's true of other things too.

Have kids? This is considered one of the most backward states regarding education. There's a raging debate going on about how to meet the constitutional mandate of providing an "adequate education" for all and which has been reviewed by the courts mandating another 100(?) million towards remedies. Another review is shaping to see if the first millions adequately address educational short comings--poor teacher salaries, dilapidated structures, etc. Little Rock schools and surrounding county schools are still under federal oversight for discrimination.

Racism can be alive and well here, though probably less overt. When I PCSed in '99, the social actions folks at Little Rock AFB(LRAFB) asked us to inform them if discrimination was still on-going in Cabot, 9 miles northeast, and a hotbed for housing growth. They seem to discriminate in the loan process, realtors don't do follow-ups, your name's not given to realtors, realtors are too busy, etc. or so I’ve been told. The town has almost no black residents. Jacksonville, immediately outside of Little Rock AFB is about 40%(?) black. Several long-term residents tell me how Cabot in the '70s had a sign/billboard stating "don't let the sun go down on your black @$$ here" or very similiar to that. A Cabot resident and acquaintance commented how everyone in his neighborhood "knows of the local KKK muck-a-muck around the corner."

Cars are taxed yearly. I guess they're not excessive compared to the NE or CA. I don't consider the income rate tax excessive.

You're in the bible belt. Searcy, 35+ miles north or LRAFB had a book store close several years ago because it carried books dealing with homosexuality. The current governor, a Baptist minister(?) had drawn a lot of negative attention to the state for pardoning numerous murderers, rapists, etc. He seems to better know inmates than the parole board. If memory serves, he's paroled more criminals than maybe seven (more?) previous governors. Allegedly, more have been paroled than all surrounding states, maybe for several years.

A neighbor kid received many negative comments for his Mohawk haircut, even had a couple of guys try to beat up him and a friend if he would step out of the Taco Bell. He declined the invite. This "bad seed" got a mostly free 4-year ride to a state school due to ACT scores. To the state's credit, it seems to give a lot of scholarships of varying amounts. We have among the larger number of two-year schools per capita.

Sports are a big thing here, especially the "Hogs" and football. Several progressive thinkers have tried to introduce legislative measures to more better account for money going to public athletic accounts--all failed to my knowledge. Remember my observation regarding dilapidated school structures... ?

Baptist Hospital(?) in Little Rock has/had a labor relations dispute simmering for several years. I think the nurses voted pro-union, but management used every “shuck and jive” measure, dirty trick, etc. to avoid complying with the vote/contract. A complaint was filed with the federal labor relations board. Not sure how that was all settled.

It seems we read monthly about another politician accused of crimes or about to serve jail time. We have a least one not too distant governor serving jail time, same for legislators. Remember the check bouncing scandal in Congress 15(?) years ago. I believe among the worst of’em was the fairly recently former Pulaski County sheriff Tommy Robinson.

An often heard comparison is that, whatever the category, at least Arkansas is not last… this year maybe. We’re very competitive with Mississippi, Louisiana, and South Carolina.

I stand by the above statements and observations. They can generally be easily verified though I may be off on some numbers, dates, etc. Not too flattering a picture of AR and likely to upset some. The truth is what it is.

Having said those things, depending on where you live in PA, $200,000 often will buy a lot of house, land, or a combo. They do wonders with catfish and bar bq pork down here. Ice tea can be sweet enough to stand a spoon. If you like hunting and fishing, there’s a lot to do. They don’t salt roads often, if ever. Ice storms and snow aren’t common, but hot, sticky summers (100F+) are and tornados can be. People can be very friendly, if you look like them. I have a newer 1800 SF house, heated and air-conditioned., 2250-SQ total. Electricity ran me $60 (Dec), $90 (Aug), and $140 (Sep). Gas cost $132 (Jan), $72 (Feb), and $18.36 (Aug-Sep). Water runs $30-$95 depending on how much I water the lawn.
Sounds just like Texas.

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Old Mar 30, 2007, 04:52 PM
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I am a NICU nurse, and Have worked at Arkansas Children's Hospital for 30 years. If you are interested in Pediatric, I would recommend you check out and tour the hospital. We are a very progressive, research oriented hospital. Our NICU is 68-74 beds, and expanding. We treat all congenital birth defects, both med. and surgical; all CHD in a specialized CV ICU. We have a separate ECMO unit. We receive tansports from all over AR, plus surrounding states. Hospital has the only dedicated Burn treatment center for the state. We do heart and kidney transplantation. Have just started a bariatric surgery unit for teens at severe risk. They work in conjunction with nutritionists and our Fitness Center. Multidisciplinary approach to care: MDs, Rn's,PT/OT/Speech/Child Life/Social Work/Pastoral Care/volunteers, etc. We have residents, attendings, and fellows in-house 24/7. Difficult thing: residents rotate as often as monthly through certain areas of hospital, so your patient's families will be seeing a lot of doctors if they are here for a prolonged period of time. we do have teams for our "Long term" patients in our unit, so families see consistency of care.

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Old Mar 30, 2007, 10:46 PM
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I moved here two years ago from Cali. I have seen quite a few confederate flags around here. (it is the south). The weather is crazy. Snow one day, 70 degrees the next. Tornados, thundestorm warnings. There are a million species of bugs that I have never seen in my life. I swear I saw something that looked as big as a fairy the other night. If you want something to do, you must actively seek it out or you'll be at home becomng a couch potato. I love the state fair, the river fest, the country boys. No bumper to bumper traffic. No looooong lines in the DMV. In the fall, everthing is so beautiful when the leaves on the trees start to change colors.

Majority of the people I've met are really nice. Sometimes overly. But I prefer that the alternative.

Oh. The razorbacks are THE thing here and Jermaine Taylor. Don't talk bad about either or you'll be tarred & feathered on sight. j/k

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Old Apr 02, 2007, 04:48 PM
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I agree with the statements of EX....

As far as discrimination, it is more so in Arkansas than many major cities. If you aren't a minority, you can't really speak on it.

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Old Apr 02, 2007, 04:50 PM
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This is so true. I remember visiting family in AR and asked about this Jermaine Taylor and the people were disgusted that I didn't know.
Originally Posted by Miss_Priss View Post

Oh. The razorbacks are THE thing here and Jermaine Taylor. Don't talk bad about either or you'll be tarred & feathered on sight. j/k

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Old Apr 03, 2007, 02:40 AM
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Julia, Just wondering if there is a specific area that you've experienced racism? NW area, LR, southern AR?
This is a huge concern of mine when I consider moving back to AR, as I don't want my kids to be exposed to the kind of racism that I saw growing up there...My heart goes out to you for whatever experiences you endured.

momo

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Old Apr 03, 2007, 06:11 AM
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Typically, in the Little Rock area, it's subtle. If you are use to living in a large city, you will quickly see that the races don't mix on a friendly basis. It's very limited. I would caution any person of color from living outside of LR. The oppotunities are limited (in the entire state) and the ability to network and see other people who look like you is minimal. Unless you are moving to AR on a short term basis, I wouldn't recommend it at all.

Originally Posted by mo-mo View Post
Julia, Just wondering if there is a specific area that you've experienced racism? NW area, LR, southern AR?
This is a huge concern of mine when I consider moving back to AR, as I don't want my kids to be exposed to the kind of racism that I saw growing up there...My heart goes out to you for whatever experiences you endured.

momo

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Old May 22, 2007, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RazorbackRN View Post
Some of what you have said is true, however, much of it is outdated information.

Regarding education, some of the schools may be "backwards" but we also have schools that have surpassed the national averages in all categories. I live in Bryant, which is where my kids attend school and this is true of these schools. The graduating rate, SAT scores and post-secondary education numbers have well exceeded the national average. There are also other districts that have as well.

Is there discrimination? Yes. There is ANYWHERE in this country that you move. Having lived in other places, I can tell you that it is not any worse here than elsewhere.

Are you in the Bible Belt? Yes Sir. This country was founded on the principle of God and we hold firmly to that in this region of the country. (this is NOT meant to start a religious debate)

I may not always agree with our governor, however, no matter where you are, there will be political agendas that you disagree with.

Is it a beautiful state with two of the top hospitals in the country? Yes it is. UAMS and Arkansas Children's Hopsital are second to none in research, technology and medical breakthroughs. They have been - multiple times- ranked by US News and World Report as top facilities in the world.

It is also a great place to raise a family with a decent wage/cost-of living ratio.
Following a PM, I decided to relocate my first posting and review responses and postings.

The poster immediately following mine stated much of my original posting is outdated. I made some phone calls, had a few talks, checked the “net,” checked some local papers, etc. I will only agree that some(!) things are outdated and have decided to post updates where I feel warranted and of significance.

UPDATE—The state legislature is throwing another 100 million dollars to address the dilapidated school system--$200,000,000 or so. This wasn’t largess on the state’s part, but in response to the state supreme court’s rebuke for not complying with its first directive. According to local news media, the legislature tried various actions to get around having to comply with the original court mandate. The court responded by extending its oversight for at least another year to help ensure state compliance. Legislators then mostly resigned themselves there was no way to legislate themselves a fix and appropriated the additional $100 million while the getting was good—a shocking nearly one billion dollar surplus.

UPDATE—Racism. It seems to be alive and well in the Cabot area which made the local papers for a possible worsening of relations. If memory serves me, a black Air Force family living in Cabot awoke one morning to find an epithet sprayed on their fence or house… might have been one of their children that actually discovered it on the way out to school, but am unsure. This followed new reports of a neutral fashion commenting how some Katrina evacuees were placed in the Cabot. As I sometimes work in the construction industry in Cabot, the evacuees’ arrival was a topic of conversation within the trade and among reality agents I met—nothing negative, but… it was discussed. I was told by an active duty Air Force member that the race relations folk were “dialed-in” to Cabot and closely watching the town.

STATUS QUO—Personal property (which includes autos) and income tax rates remain about the same.

UPDATE—Bible belt. The religious governor is out of office and running for US president. The governor’s records stands and may partially explain his dismal standings among party candidates.

UPDATE—College scholarships. Up slightly proportionately according to a friend who works for ASU-Beebe. Good deal! The kid I mentioned having a Mohawk and ridiculed by some locals graduated with two baccalaureate degrees… within four years. Good for him!

RazorbackRN, I would agree with you if you stated discrimination occurs in all states. I will not agree with you that it is not worse than anywhere according to my experience. Things may be improving though. The state police (state troopers?) recently was removed from federal oversight for overt and systemic racial discrimination in hiring and promotions. In my 45 years or so of military experience and living in many different locales, the only place that comes close to comparing with AR’s racial climate is the New York City area of which we read periodically.

UPDATE—Attitudes towards sports and Hog/Razorbacks. No change on the legislative front regarding increased transparency of public schools over how tax dollars are spent support sports, notably football and basketball. Of note according a local high school teacher is that her school’s soccer team was demoted to a club. What does that matter? No tax dollars support clubs… which leaves more money to the “big” sports—football, basketball, and baseball in particular.

Arkansas sports, especially the “Hogs” football team of whom many seem rabid—I expect them to possibly do better. Two years ago, the USC Trojans stomped the Hogs… 75ish or so to 14? Last year, the Hogs improved significantly; USC only beat’em 40-something to 20s? Next year, I’ll bet USC won’t beat the Hogs… because the Hogs aren’t scheduled to play USC for the first time in several if not in many years. This will occur despite the fact the Hog’s much ballyhooed quarterback (a native Arkansan) quit after one year and transferred. Maybe he knows or finally realized something.


UPDATE—Baptist Hospital (Little Rock) Unionization. The federal court finally helped resolve the labor dispute. I think I remember reading hospital management was found trying to rig the union vote in violation of federal law and other violations. They’re union which is good or bad depending on your perspective.

UPDATE—Corrupt public and government officials. It was the mayor, police chief, chief’s wife, two bailiffs/bondsmen, and other assorted folks who where charged with a cornucopia of wrongdoings… from Lonoke correct? The chief and wife have been convicted are in the pokey. Did I get all the characters correct? I could go back and double check MSNBC… or CNN—cannot remember which media covered the story, perhaps both. Maybe Huckabee would pardon’em if he still was in the governor’s mansion.

UPDATE—Arkansas education. If Bryant’s schools have improved, my hat’s off to the community and to the others as well. My connected ASU friend maintains that state still ranks among the worst with the number of four-year degrees awarded within five years and the number of students needing remedial course upon entering four-year institutions. Arkansas also was among states cheating on achievement tests mandated by No Child Left Behind. Practices included ensuring some of the worst students were absent on test dates and that races were not accurately reflected. Again, Arkansas wasn’t the only one doing these actions and No Child Left Behind is a practically unachievable as currently written and funded for those aware of the details.

STATUS QUO—Still in the bible belt. Two more churches going up in my neighborhood. Man, where does the money come from? The Pentecostal monstrosity in North Little Rock at the junction of I-30 and I-40—A friend of mine inquired about joining with this particular church and stated the church wanted a copy of his tax returns for the preceding year return and demanded payroll deduction.

I googled quickly for bookstores in Searcy. Three popped up—Harding University Book Store (religious affiliation), Church Data Services, and Bible House Inc. The last two are listed as having the same address and phone number. Somehow I don’t envision a Barnes and Noble, Books A Million, etc. opening there anytime soon.
Publicly funded healthcare providers—I can’t see Searcy’s population receiving the best community healthcare possible in such a religious sodden atmosphere. I wonder how much is mentioned about abortion, birth control, pre-marital sex, sex education, etc. other than to say “no” to extramarital sex which according to a study I read of yesterday was completely worthless. The preached to “no” kids engaged in sex as often as those preached to “no” and offered sexual education. The feds gives millions to preach abstention and cut back on abortion, birth control clinics, etc. Like RazorbackRN, I don’t mean to start a religious debate, only mention facts and share observations. Potential settlers should individually decide if the religious atmosphere is to their liking.

STATUS QUO-UPDATE—I agree that Arkansas still is it a beautiful state with two of the top hospitals in the country. UAMS and Arkansas Children's Hospital are second to none in research, technology and medical breakthroughs. They have been ranked by US News and World Report as top facilities in the world. But if you are considering applying to UAMS for nursing school, consider its first time NCLEX pass rate—86%. I think cross-town competitors Baptist and UALR were in the high 90s. Call the AR Board of Nursing. UAMS had among the lower pass rates of four-year, two-year, and certificate programs.

STATUS QUO—Catfish, Bar B-Q, a sweetened iced tea are to die for.

Despite writing what some will view as a diatribe about Arkansas, I recommend coming to Arkansas and buying a home as long you do it with both eyes open. I think the Latin expression “caveat emptor” can easily apply in some situations.

Please excuse typos, punctuation errors, etc. If I am significantly wrong on claims/statements, please give specifics as to how I erred. Another please, don't just say, "Some of what you have said is true, however, much of it is outdated information." That is profoundly vague and useless to me and other readers. I depended much on memories/recollections and little on notes, recordings, etc.

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Old May 25, 2007, 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by mo-mo View Post
Julia, Just wondering if there is a specific area that you've experienced racism? NW area, LR, southern AR?
This is a huge concern of mine when I consider moving back to AR, as I don't want my kids to be exposed to the kind of racism that I saw growing up there...My heart goes out to you for whatever experiences you endured.

momo
Honestly, I wouldn't recm'd moving any further north than Conway. I'm from a little town about 45 min's north of Conway and racism sadly is still an issue (whether people want to admit it or not). I lived in Conway for a year and have lived in North Little Rock for almost 7 and am happy to say that it is nowhere near as bad as in North Central/North Arkansas.

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