[sassiebaz]

Originally Posted by Jmelyn

Hi all!

When I first replied to this thread I was just starting my second block in EBSN. I am now in my fourth block and my class will be the third class graduated from EBSN... we are so close!

Believe me all the students have concerns about accreditation as it affects our future and the money we just spent getting this education. Recently, we were told by our administrator, that the school had to graduate one class before they applied for ACICS accreditation, our first class graduated Oct '06 and the ACICS committee was just at our school Oct 29-31 going through their accrediting process. This appeared to go very well.

We then asked her about NLN accrediting as a few of us want to continue on with our BSN and MSN degree and worry about where we can continue and a few of us want to work at the VA Hospital system and they will not hire RNs who graduate from non-NLN accredited schools. She said that EBSN would not be able to apply for NLN accrediting until they graduated a second class. Our second class of RN students will be graduating in February '07 and she said it would take 6 months or so to obtain the NLN accrediting.

This school seems to be heading in the right direction with accreditation. If I learn anything else regarding the accrediting from the administration or if I hear about other colleges that will accept EBSN's credits I'll post it.

Thank you for the info! How are the classes, in general, going for you? Are you finding the workload difficult, easy, semi-difficult? I would like your input on that aspect of things. Thanks!

[Knit1Purl2]

Originally Posted by sassiebaz

Thank you for the info! How are the classes, in general, going for you? Are you finding the workload difficult, easy, semi-difficult? I would like your input on that aspect of things. Thanks!

If anyone knows at which hospitals ESBN does their clinicals would be nice and if anyone knows how the first graduating class is doing on their NCLEX tests.
Thanks for all the replies.
It really helps in decision-making.

[broadway lamb]

Run as FAR away from Ethel Bauer School of Nursing as you can!! I was a student in one of the other programs offered at IIA, so the nursing school is in our building. I wanted to enroll in the program, but I decided not to. I have talked with several students there and they can't wait for the program to end because they were miserable.
I have heard good things about Apollo's RN program, so I will be enrolling there. Apollo's program is in close proximity to Ethel Bauer.

[jamonit]

i'm in my last semester there. i like it pretty well. the instructors are pretty good, the clinical sites have been great. they're still inventing the wheel there (so far, we will only be the 2nd graduating class) so expect that the road will be a little bumpy. the school has a good reputation. the reputation helped get me in the door at phoenix children's in the PICU.

[endswithe]

I had never heard of this school before today. Are they an accredited school? Does the Arizona State Board of Nursing recognize them?

[endswithe]

Am waiting to hear from a contact at AZ Board of Nursing. I don't think that a school without accreditation would be able to send students for NCLEX.

However, there is a school that operates in Arizona (out of a mall, I believe) that sends students to Utah to take NCLEX. Utah licenses the grads, then they come to AZ to work on a compact license.

Last I heard, AZ Board of Nursing was looking into this and was going to work something out with Utah so as not to grant these nurses a compact state license.

[jamonit]

endswithe. yes, they have acics accredidation, working on NLN (takes time to gain this status). this program was put together with the az state board of nursing's strict insight and criteria. if you look at the az state board page, you will see that they are a recognized ADN program. credits thus far are accepted by u of phoenix and grand canyon. in 9 months, after strict nln review, credits will be applicable to all state universities. granted it is a new program, there is no doubt that it's students should not be allowed to sit for nclex. i graduate from EBSN on the 8th, and am awaiting my ATT from the board. we are the second graduating class and i believe in the education i've received at this institution.

[sassiebaz]

Originally Posted by jamonit

endswithe. yes, they have acics accredidation, working on NLN (takes time to gain this status). this program was put together with the az state board of nursing's strict insight and criteria. if you look at the az state board page, you will see that they are a recognized ADN program. credits thus far are accepted by u of phoenix and grand canyon. in 9 months, after strict nln review, credits will be applicable to all state universities. granted it is a new program, there is no doubt that it's students should not be allowed to sit for nclex. i graduate from EBSN on the 8th, and am awaiting my ATT from the board. we are the second graduating class and i believe in the education i've received at this institution.

Jamonit....can you please describe your experience at EBSN. What were clinicals like and what were the hours? Do you feel the education was worth the $$cost? I had considered EBSN but was deterred when Sandy said I may have 12 hour clinical shifts up to 4 days a week-yikes! I do realize that once an RN it is normal to have 12 hour shifts but I wasnt ready to do that with my little being 2 years old.......I'd love to hear what you have to say

[Hoozdo]

[quote=Jmelyn;1912097]Hi all!


We then asked her about NLN accrediting as a few of us want to continue on with our BSN and MSN degree and worry about where we can continue and a few of us want to work at the VA Hospital system and they will not hire RNs who graduate from non-NLN accredited schools. She said that EBSN would not be able to apply for NLN accrediting until they graduated a second class. Our second class of RN students will be graduating in February '07 and she said it would take 6 months or so to obtain the NLN accrediting.

I say nix the VA plans. If you don't have a BSN degree you have little chance for advancement and pay increases there. Starting pay is about 4 bucks below market value and the benefits aren't all than nice. No dental, high insurance drug copays. Lots of vacation, but useless unless you can take any.

[jamonit]

sassiebaz--
it's an 18 month program. clinicals times/days per week are all different per semester. you pretty much need to be available when they say jump. however, the clinical sites have been great. we went to the va, healthsouth, mayo hospital, community setting for our community semester (like southwest kidney institute), del web and boswell. the teachers know their stuff and expect a lot. but you will feel ready to contend in the nursing workforce once you complete the program. i do not recommend attempting to work fulltime while getting through. i have friends who did, but it was grueling for them. student loans, pell grants and scholarships through phoenix friendly house are the way to go.

good luck to you, whatever you decide is right for you.