[RGN1]

This thread is old but the stories are still coming out in the press saying the same thing so it's still relevant unfortunately.

It's always the same though - a few rotten apples spoiling the entire crop! I'm sure that's a worlwide problem too!
Personally I think the same could be said for our patients!

I had to giggle at your comment, Suzanne! Although I feel like I've been working since 50 years ago sometimes!!

[celticqueen]

thanks to caliotter3. i saw the thread, and it just so happened that, because of the situation at work which i wrote about, i felt i wanted to put my opinion across. whether the thread was started 18 months ago or not, it is still very relevent to many nurses out there today, and therefore it could go on for another 18 months or more. i do acknowledge that i over exagerated the retired 50 years ago bit, but obviously suzanne didn't take it in the flavour of which it was intended

[Fiona59]

Oct. 2007 to April 2008, that's barely six months.

[suzanne4]

Originally Posted by celticqueen

thanks to caliotter3. i saw the thread, and it just so happened that, because of the situation at work which i wrote about, i felt i wanted to put my opinion across. whether the thread was started 18 months ago or not, it is still very relevent to many nurses out there today, and therefore it could go on for another 18 months or more. i do acknowledge that i over exagerated the retired 50 years ago bit, but obviously suzanne didn't take it in the flavour of which it was intended

I understand exactly where you are coming from, but I always point out when someone is responding to a thread that is more than a year old because they may not get a response from the original poster; nothing more than that.

I have been a nurse for years, and still come across some that only will do something their one way because they have never seen it done any other way, but that is just them and has nothing to do with how long that they have been in the profession. Some are not willing to learn new things. And it frustrates me as well. But I just take them with a grain of salt and happy that I do not have to work my career with them.

[english_nurse]

Originally Posted by suzanne4

Sorry, but if they retired 50 years ago, chances of them being alive today are quite slim.
And this thread was started more than 18 months ago, and is not specific to working in the UK either.

i think it was said with a hint of sarcasm, not meant literally Suzanne to be honest

[suzanne4]

I know that quite well.........................

[english_nurse]

oh good im glad cos i thought you thought she was serious

[ZippyGBR]

Originally Posted by suzanne4

Sorry, but if they retired 50 years ago, chances of them being alive today are quite slim.
And this thread was started more than 18 months ago, and is not specific to working in the UK either.

well except many of these 'ladies' retired when they married and left at the merest sniff of pregnancy if not before ...

i for one am sick and fed of up a a certain well known Agony aunt and figurehead of one of the meddler's groups waxing lyrical on the benefits of not employing HCAs and Cleaners and instead forcing Students to do their work ...

i'm also getting really rather annoyed with the way in which some people apint the quality , quantity and expectations of student placements , IIRC 'traditional ' training had approximately 1/3 study and 2/3rds placement and becasue placements were all 'rostered' there was a expectation that HCA and Domestic work be done ahead of actually learning to be an effective RN....

it's amzing how many people outside those in current clinical practice don't realise thaat pre-reg students are required to do at least 2300 hours of placements

[nightmare]

Originally Posted by ZippyGBR

well except many of these 'ladies' retired when they married and left at the merest sniff of pregnancy if not before ...

i for one am sick and fed of up a a certain well known Agony aunt and figurehead of one of the meddler's groups waxing lyrical on the benefits of not employing HCAs and Cleaners and instead forcing Students to do their work ...

i'm also getting really rather annoyed with the way in which some people apint the quality , quantity and expectations of student placements , IIRC 'traditional ' training had approximately 1/3 study and 2/3rds placement and becasue placements were all 'rostered' there was a expectation that HCA and Domestic work be done ahead of actually learning to be an effective RN....


it's amzing how many people outside those in current clinical practice don't realise thaat pre-reg students are required to do at least 2300 hours of placements

I know exactly who you mean! I used to like her until she started all this !
I'm 'traditional' trained and yes I did 'clean' sometimes but we had ward maids who did the bulk of the cleaning when they were not hitting students with their brushes! I wouldn't like to go back to that.Nursing is an ever evolving process otherwise we'd still be doing it like Florence!

[english_nurse]

what!?!?!?! you mean you dont have oil lamps anymore in your hospital like we do??

thats it im contacting unison!!