[sharrie]

Originally Posted by english_nurse

i dont think its meant as an excuse for the behaviour, what i notice at work is when pressure comes from above for more and more stupid stuff which seems to matter more than the patients, people get 'fed up' and ******** starts, usually at each other.
at least thats what it seems like to me

I know it contributes but there has to be some responsibility on the part of the nurses as well



and I'm not sure what ***** is but if you can't say it then it must be naughty

[nightmare]

It's true,unfortunately.We try so hard to be calm ,cool and collected with the patients but when it comes to each other,well something snaps sometimes.I like working with students,I find I learn something from everyone of them.

[RGN1]

I enjoy working with students most of the time but I'm getting a little fed-up with the quality (or lack of it) that is starting to come through. It's been ages since I had student who even had the basics of common sense (I'm not even referring to nursing when I say this.)

What's worse is that if you even try so much as to make a suggestion as to how they can improve you get the "it's because of my culture" or "you don't understand my culture"... thrown back at you. Universities are scared in my mind to even fail students incase they get accused of racism.

I'm also fed-up of universities not matching up placements with their course work. We had one student placed with us on our adult med-surg ward while trying to cmplete her child health theory in college. Now you tell me how she is supposed to relate theory to practice when her placements don't match her classes?The courses have no proper structure, some of our students are self-confessedly copying & pasting large parts of their essay work & my current student didn't even know what paracetamol was for & you don't even need to be a nurse to know that one!! She's in her second year too!! SCARY!!

I understand I'm opening a can of worms here & I do want to stress that I have come across some quite outstanding students in the past but I feel they're there inspite of, not despite, the system. Also they're becoming rarer.

I just want you to see things from a mentor's point of view & understand why some of us are getting fed up & why so many of us hark back to the older styles of training.

[busbybabe]

hi all, i totally agree about the nurses calling each other names. i joined nursing school in september 07, i had my first placement in november it lasted till february and it was the worst experience of my life. i have two children who behave better than them on this ward, the nurses were lazy to say the least they would bully the students to do everything and the students did because they were afraid of getting fails on their practise documents. i to witnessed a student crying because she was bullied i reported the state of the ward when i went back to school. I also reported to the nurses on the ward that five patients had the beginnings of pressure sores on the bottoms and nothing was done. It was like they did'nt like the student telling them anything. I hope i never have to set foot on that ward again i would rather leave.

[ayla2004]

Originally Posted by fiesty_gemini

I’m currently a second yr student nurse and I’m really disappointed in my fellow tem members. I find as a student you are often being discourage into the profession by mentors and their behaviour towards each other is little better than squabbling five year olds. I’m feed up with hearing mentors and health care support workers slag each other off in my presence, not only does it make me feel uncomfortable but it also makes me doubt entering a profession where the MDT cant remain professional at work. During this placement I have seen a fellow student leave the ward in tears twice due to the aggression her mentors have portrayed towards her. Luckily I have a great support system behind me so when I get home I can vent to them, go back on the ward and take their behaviour with a pinch of salt, and lashings of vodka on the wkend. Just want to know is it this bad when you qualify? or r there any other students that experience difficult placements, if so what are your coping strategies.
Thanks for allowing me to vent

were is your home trust and what uni are you at
in manc as well

[cariad]

I am mentoring a student at the moment over here, and its very different to back home apart from the fact that she is so young, she is very eager to learn. even a few years ago, some of the students,,,and these were mature ones! were as rough as they come, weekends spent boozing and fighting and looking like they had been dragged through a hedge backwards when they came to work. at the end of the day, nursing is a profession and although the stress of being there gets to you, we all have to deal with it including the students.

[letina]

Originally Posted by SueIP

What words that then lol

Another word for a female dog??

[cariad]

some words that are acceptable to us brits is frowned upon by the americans, my friend posted a mild derogatory word on here and the american moderator changed the word into a more offensive one to us,,,,,,only they didnt know it.

[english_nurse]

********
na still wont let me say it
you got it right tina woof woof

[english_nurse]

Originally Posted by cariad

some words that are acceptable to us brits is frowned upon by the americans, my friend posted a mild derogatory word on here and the american moderator changed the word into a more offensive one to us,,,,,,only they didnt know it.

really???

now that is funny lord knows what they will make of me next time i land i have to say my mouth can be a bit blue sometimes.

i should be in bed, worked last night but i cant sleep cos i got so wound up at work that i could kill someone today!!! thankgod im off at the weekend doing my other job which i love so much more than the nhs