[End Game RN]

We all make choices and most of us behave as adults.

Celebrate a co-worker who returns to school/University and works hard for the next step in their professional lives.

We throw parties for those to change their roles as their education and college/university degree grants them.
Our PCTs become LPNs, RNs (like myself who worked full time and went to nursing school full time).

Some of our PCTs go to college to study respiratory therapy. We are very supportive as a group..I don't believe I have ever witnessed jealosy over a colleague obtaining their advanced degrees in anything.

Most of my orientees who became critical care RNs CCRN,CNRN etc.. also became Nurse anesthetists..I never felt anything but pride (like a nurse Mom). Actually I cannot think of anyone of our nurses who did not pass their nurse anesthetist programs/boards and now work as nurse anesthetists. Several contiued in their studies to achieve Phds, ARNPs, what ever, none of us are jealous.

PCTs/LPNs are especially congratulated and encouraged to move on even further in their studies and professional achievment. When possible I pay for one three credit class for one of our PCTs. I told her that she can study what she wants and do not hold her to nursing as a profession only. I wish more of us senior nurses would do this..pick someone deserving and within reason, provide some incentive such as this.

Love my "people" my "family"

Bye,

End Game RN

[CHATSDALE]

every facility is different and sometimes one person can set a sour tone that carries on and causes bitter feelings
cnas & ward clerks have their jobs and God bless them, i have worked w/o either so i am very grateful when they are on board
i see you are from austrailia and i know that there are different regs concerning what each specility can do, here there are states which allow lpns to start an iv but not to give a 'push'
most do not allow ca ivs or blood products to be given by a lpn,
as for less than 14 y/o age restriction i have never heard of this
each division has larned and been certified to do things that are not considered within the scope of the devision less on the hierarchy just as even experienced on competent rns cannot do the things wihich is considered in the scope of a medical doctor
the plain fact is that it is in the patients interest to have a team with all members working together without malace or jealousy

[husker_rn]

I have seen the us/them thing in action. I have worked with LPNs who have had a large knowledge base and have learned much from them. In the end a good nurse is a good nurse and the initials behind the name don't change that. Until we all learn to respect each other we can't expect anyone else to respect us as a profession.

[Simba&NalasMom]

If such an "us and them" culture does exist, I see it more between nurses (no matter how many letters are behind their names) and MDs.

In my experience, nurses share a special bond no matter what their "level". Most of my experience is in LTC; maybe that makes a difference?

[JessieRN]

I think at our hospital, the LPN are more aware of their limited role then RN's. They get annoyed having to hunt us down to give their patients pain meds, to assess their new patient, to hang their blood, ect, ect. But, I have never heard an RN complain about it. We have some great LPN's, that work their tails off, and have better assessment skills then I could hope to have. And usually, if we give their pain meds, they will try to do something for us, like turn a patient (although I don't think I have ever heard an RN demand or even politely ask this). We have a great team there, RN's and LPN's.

[nyapa]

Originally Posted by Simba&NalasMom

If such an "us and them" culture does exist, I see it more between nurses (no matter how many letters are behind their names) and MDs.

In my experience, nurses share a special bond no matter what their "level". Most of my experience is in LTC; maybe that makes a difference?

You know, when I started this poll initially, it was based on some blatant and covert expressions by RNs regarding ENs. However I was a victim of the opposite last week, ie; an EN being both blatant and covertly 'bullying' towards me. So I am tending to agree with alot of ppl here. Maybe it is the attitude of individual nurses, not their background or knowledge. Maybe that is their outlet of expression, to down other ppl.

I like what you have written SimbaandNalasMom. We are a team, we are a family, and I hope that we all remember that...

[akcarmean]

I have been a victim of of the difference between the initials behind your name.

I have to agree with others. I think it is more the person and their attitude.

It would be great if all could learn to work together and not pay attention to the initials behind the name.

[barefootlady]

Above all the other Us vs Them situations, the one that rubs me raw the most is the
Nurse vs Admin/Mgt situation. Many times my heads reels from the pressure of being a good nurse, a patient advocate, and a good employee. Anybody else have any thoughts?

[Simba&NalasMom]

Originally Posted by barefootlady

Above all the other Us vs Them situations, the one that rubs me raw the most is the
Nurse vs Admin/Mgt situation. Many times my heads reels from the pressure of being a good nurse, a patient advocate, and a good employee. Anybody else have any thoughts?

Boy, do I...but I think I don't wanna go there because I'm sure there are PLENTY of administrators who take a holistic rather than monetary approach to caring for their clients. I just have not had the pleasure of meeting them yet.

Nyapa, I feel your pain. I'm a relatively new LPN (3 years) who has been bullied countless times by CNAs. I've actually pulled rank on one and I hate being that petty, because you're right...we are all on the same team.