[alansmith52]

So we are being helped by nurses from abroad../?????
Do you remember how Mcdonalds and Burger king ran out of employies. What did they do? does anyone at McDonalds speak english anymore?
Am I comparing our jobs to working fast food? you tell me.

Why is the ANA allowing foreign Nurses to obtain licenses...???
really thats my biggest question it seems like the ANA is bending over backwards to relive the shortage. when I think the shortage is the best thing for nurses since disposible needles.
matt

[sjoe]

See the thread "US licensing exam to be given in foreign countries" on "General Nursing Discussion" for more on this.

[UKRNinUSA]

those darn pesky foreigners
correct me if I'm wrong- the United States is a country of immigrants and descendants of immigrants - Alan Smith doesn't sound like a native American name to me

[eltrip]

Another proud product of immigrants right here!

Remember "Comin' to America" by Neil Diamond? I am amazed that so many people are still wanting to come to this country, with the current terrorist threat that has landed on our shores!

Glad to have nurses from anywhere as long as they can speak the language & deal with our culture. And, of course, as long as they are treated fairly by TPTB.

I agree that the causes of the shortage need to be addressed. I sure wouldn't want to prevent immigration to this country on the basis of being a nurse...not being competent in the language, sure, no problem. Anyhow...

Just my 2 cents worth. I'll stop rambling now.

[fergus51]

Another semi foreigner here (dual Canadian/US citizen).

Nurses are allowed to write the American exam when they can prove their qualifications. They pass the same NCLEX you had to. Guess what? American nurses can do the same thing in other countries! They can go and work in foreign countries too. Why aren't you complaining about those pesky Americans stealing jobs from the locals, like you do about immigrants stealing jobs from Americans? Are there really that many immigrants jumping at the bit to move to Utah and steal your jobs and ruin nursing as a profession? Damn. I didn't think our evil plan was known by the real Americans yet.

[researchrabbit]

Originally posted by fergus51
Damn. I didn't think our evil plan was known by the real Americans yet.

I ALWAYS suspected you Canadians of having devious designs! Actually, from having visited and having relatives there, maybe that wouldn't be a bad thing!

[alansmith52]

Actually yes I belived people in the philippneswill seek nursing as a means to come here. and the article did raise question to theri clinical competency.
And imagine you are a membe of al quidia. cna you think of an easier way to get here.
' most of all this. What does the ANA have to gain by reliving the shortage. we will show CEO's and Insurace compnanies that we are not as rich a comodity as we think we are.

[alansmith52]

foringners from uk and canada or even australia are obviously no what I am talking about.
i mean nurses from under develped countires whos education is questionable.

[ITSJUSTMEZOE]

Dear Mr Alan Smith,

Please , on the behalf of some that worked in other areas in the world., Dont generalize so... I myself have worked in Singapore, Cairo, Egypt and South Africa with some of the best trained , (with less equipment), nurses in the world. Yes there are Nurses coming from 3rd world countries to work in the good Ol USA, and I will be more than willing to assist anyone of them to better thier lives in doing so. If they are trained to handle the situation , and can Pass the NCLEX , just as I have then so be it, They are not taking anything from any one nurse in here, but possibly helping many nurses in here in reducing a load that is beyond rediculous.
They are coming the hospital I am currently on assignment with. They recruited over 1000 possible Nurses all RN'S, to help fill the gap, and I will be glad to see them, but they have things to accomplish before they can taste the american way.
The majority of this country is founded on immagrants, Unless you are Native American Indian , you are a "forgeiner " as well.
I have yet to run into anyone when Im working overseas with that American trained RN is taking my job, if anything they are so thankful as we are another Nurse with hands and a brain has come to help.
Just my 2 cents
Zoe

[alansmith52]

All of your (collective) arguments regarding immigration and racial equality are well founded and I belive them. As I think of it my argument is more toward the value of the profssion.
stay with me for one second. after centries Nurses are finally being seen. reports are showing that we do make a diffrence. Hosptals are having to close O.R.'s We knew all along that it would take a healh care crisis inorder to be recognized. The CEO sitting in the big office is finnaly saying F"oh I guess we do need nurses and we are not just complying to JChO after all, we actualy need them" Nurses are finally being paid more than ever (not near what their worth) so my question is simply this. Why do we want to rush right out and ease that CEO's Burden. If he really needs nurses he can get them we all know it. if he offers us 70000 a year I've got a team of thousands that will be at that hospital tomorrow. this is what needs to be forced to happen.
by recuriting Nurses from abroad we are only helping the CEO to relize what he already knew. that we are worthless. they will be able to pay these people much less. in the long run when the shortage is over they will be able to keep nurses for cheaper.
Nurses deserve respect and reimbursment. now that it is about to happen we will be our own worst enemy. why? because we care. we care too damn much. we would rather take an enternal pay cutt than see our patinets go without the best of care.
hmmmmmm