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Old May 09, 2008, 11:03 PM
unitek1963 (Male)
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Re: Woman expecting her 18th child

Because 18-kid families is the reason we now have 6.6 billion humans on the planet (that figure expected to reach 9 billion by 2050).

Many generations ago, parents had large families for a multitude of reasons, but mainly due to the fact that few of them lived into adulthood. With advances in nutrition, housing, education and medical care, few DO NOT live into adulthood.

There is absolutely NO REASON to have 18 children.

Mike

Originally Posted by stevielynn View Post
I agree - and the size of the family has nothing to do with how good the parents are.

And 18 kids vs. how many billion on the Earth . . . that cannot make any extra impact.

steph

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Old May 09, 2008, 11:04 PM
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Re: Woman expecting her 18th child

Originally Posted by ingelein View Post
So how old do you think she is? She could "concievably" have sveral more children, and we can have a few more arguments over this.

Maybe I can contact her and ask to borrow her uterus ...

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Old May 09, 2008, 11:04 PM
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Re: Woman expecting her 18th child

Originally Posted by cardiacRN2006 View Post
Just because there are women who abuse their children doesnt mean that hording several kids makes it ok.

You know, dog owners who keep their dogs outside all the time get treated terribly in my neighborhood. They threaten to 'take them to the humane society' and 'call the pound' on them.

But they are being fed, cared for, loved, well adjusted.....and they are animals!



For the kids, a roof over the head, food on the table, clothes, TV show.......so what? It doesn't make up for quality time-at all!






ingelein-sorry for the terrible assumption...
Quality time, that is a reletive term, who's quality is the correct one? No problem about the assumption, I wish upon you however many little fat babies you want!

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Old May 09, 2008, 11:05 PM
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Re: Woman expecting her 18th child

Originally Posted by stevielynn View Post
Hey "SmilingBluEyes"!


steph
HEY There. Yep I am back. I got all finished up with my CBE certification work and have a bit of time to "play" online again. For now anyhow. Good to see ya!

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Old May 09, 2008, 11:06 PM
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Re: Woman expecting her 18th child

Originally Posted by Jolie View Post
I'm curious as to how you think you know their income. Tax brakes are not handouts. Unless you renounce your federal and state deductions for mortgage interest, educational expenses, healthcare costs, charitable donations, local and property taxes, you are every bit as much on the "dole" as they are.

Maybe we should all quit "paying your way" for the lifestyle you have chosen.
Read it again:

"15 of the 18 are under 18. That's $15,000 in tax credits plus $59,500 in 17 total exemptions plus $10,900 in the standard deduction.
By my rough calculations they'd have to earn over about $165,000 before they'd pay one cent in federal income tax."

I'm clearly not claiming to know their income. I'm passing along information from a CPA who states that without the nearly $85,000 in deductions they can claim every year, they would NEED to make at least $165,000 before they would have to pay any taxes at all. I have no idea what they make, nor did I state that I did.

And we're all on the "dole" as you put it...we all take what legal deductions we can. (And the fact remains that am NOT on the "dole" as much as this family...not even remotely close. The deductions they can take every year greatly, greatly outdistances my gross annual income.) You take your deductions, too, do you not? Before you start casting aspersions about paying for my lifestyle, you might want to take a look at your own tax return.

Does this have to get nasty? I have my opinion. *shrug* I'm not demanding that anyone agree with me.

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Old May 09, 2008, 11:07 PM
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Re: Woman expecting her 18th child

Rather her than me I have enough with my 2 angels LOL

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Old May 09, 2008, 11:08 PM
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Re: Woman expecting her 18th child

Originally Posted by BinkieRN View Post
Because they don't believe in TV and the children are not allowed to watch TV and they do not own a TV. Seems inheirtly wrong to make money off of something you don't believe in for yourself or your children. IMO
What the hey, is watching TV a religion now, well for some folks maybe....

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Old May 09, 2008, 11:11 PM
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Re: Woman expecting her 18th child

Originally Posted by Penny8611 View Post
they would NEED to make at least $165,000 before they would have to pay any taxes at all. I have no idea what they make, nor did I state that I did.

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So???

steph

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Old May 09, 2008, 11:12 PM
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Re: Woman expecting her 18th child

Originally Posted by stevielynn View Post
God also said "Be fruitful and multiply".

Gosh, I am always amazed at how vehement people are when this subject comes up.

steph
Yes. When there were TWO people on the planet.

I think we've been quite fruitful enough.

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Old May 09, 2008, 11:12 PM
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Re: Woman expecting her 18th child

Yes, I believe God did mention that in "the beginning." We are way past that point now.

Of course, God also said that if a man rapes an unbetrothed virgin, he must pay her father 50 shekels of silver and then marry her (Deut. 22:28-29), so what do I know!

Mike

Originally Posted by stevielynn View Post
God also said "Be fruitful and multiply".

Gosh, I am always amazed at how vehement people are when this subject comes up.

steph

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