[wildchipmunk]

Originally Posted by barefootlady

a psychologist stated removal of these children from this community and placing these children into "modern child protective services" would cause untold emotional problems for the children.

Did the psychologist mention any of the emotional problems caused by having multiple babies by a man old enough to be your grandpa?

I hope that shrink gets his/her license revoked.

[Spidey's mom]

I am worried about the children being removed from the mothers. This morning I read that children as young as 13 months were taken away. I was still breastfeeding my 13 month old children. And you cannot explain to a child that young why mommy isn't here.

I don't see any reason why the moms cannot stay with their kids.

Remember all the stories about kids being taken from adoptive parents by bio parents who changed their minds when the kids were old enough to realize they were being taken? What an uproar that caused.

I do think there are ramifications for these kids - regardless.



steph

[herring_RN]

Originally Posted by stevielynn

I am worried about the children being removed from the mothers. This morning I read that children as young as 13 months were taken away. I was still breastfeeding my 13 month old children. And you cannot explain to a child that young why mommy isn't here.

I don't see any reason why the moms cannot stay with their kids.

Remember all the stories about kids being taken from adoptive parents by bio parents who changed their minds when the kids were old enough to realize they were being taken? What an uproar that caused.

I do think there are ramifications for these kids - regardless.



steph

This is my concern too.

It is sad all around. Stating this obvious fact does not mean abuse should be allowed to continue.

[barefootlady]

I have worried about the young children too. This is one of those times there is no good answer. I think the state of Texas felt they had to put a age limit somewhere and decided over a year was it. While many children are still being breast fed at this age, it is true they are able to eat other foods as well. I do not think this age was picked out of a hat, just decided after input from physicians stating the kids would survive.

Did any of you hear the number of underage mother has again risen to something like 25? And the number of mother who have left the ranch is now 40 according to the news. Ofcourse, the FLDS is saying these women have left because they believe it is the only way they will ever get their kids back. Who knows, that may be partly true.

It seems there are protests in Utah against the state of Texas taking the kids. A group of Morman women have protested and are saying the state is wrong and only practicing religious persecution agains this group. Somehow, I think if a person was to delve into these protestors a lot of them would be supporters of polygomy. Az seems to be quiet right now.

This story is loosing steam and will fade until some more decisions are made. I just pray the kids are not forgotten.

[jlsRN]

I agree, age 13 months is too young. It doesn't sounds like pedophilia was going on there, but illegal sex with minor, post pubescent girls. That is different than pedophilia, whick involves pre-pubescent children.

[rn/writer]

I had hear that mothers were allowed to stay with their children ages four and younger--that only children five and older were separated from their mothers. Did that change?

[ingelein]

Didnt they offer a safe house/womens shelter placement for mothers to stay at with their children?I heard only a few did this, most went back to the YFZ ranch.

[CHATSDALE]

the children that went to foster homes are not being rushed into a different culture, they are not goiing into homes that have tv, the diet is close to what they have been eating, there are no other children from outside in the same home
underage mothers are for the most part being put in same home as their children
i thought that the nursing mothers were with their children but that may have changed

the real fly in the ointment here is that the original caller who identified herself as a 16 y/o 'sarah' is in reality a 30 something woman from colorado with mental issues

[Spidey's mom]

Originally Posted by rn/writer

I had hear that mothers were allowed to stay with their children ages four and younger--that only children five and older were separated from their mothers. Did that change?

I read today in my local paper:

"Mothers, children in sect separated"

. . . . . . ."Dozens of mothers were bused away from their children at the San Angelo Coliseum on Thursday after their legal efforts to stay united were rejected. Texas officials were preparing to move the last of the more than 400 children taken from the sect's ranch to group homes, shelters and residences, some hundreds of miles away, over the next few days.

One woman held a handwritten sign out the bus window that read: "SOS. Mothers separated. Help." . . . . . . .

"There are no words to describe how it was," said Velvet, a mother who was forced to leave her 13-month old. "We've been staying up nights to watch over the children because we didn't know what would happen.". . . .


Here is a link from an AP site . . .

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationwo...,2686405.story

[Spidey's mom]

Originally Posted by barefootlady

I have worried about the young children too. This is one of those times there is no good answer. I think the state of Texas felt they had to put a age limit somewhere and decided over a year was it. While many children are still being breast fed at this age, it is true they are able to eat other foods as well.

It doesn't have anything to do with being able to eat other foods. Not to get into a breastfeeding debate here but along with natural immunities, breastfeeding is a bonding time.

To wrench a child away from a mom who is still breastfeeding is just wrong.

To take a 13 month old who is eating hamburgers and hotdogs away from a mom is just wrong too.

steph