[pickledpepperRN]

I am afraid he's right. What do you think of this persons opinion?

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/11/op...1herbert.html?

[1Tulip]

If D-Day were reported by today's Main Stream Media



NORMANDY, FRANCE (June 6, 1944)



Three hundred French civilians were killed and thousands more were wounded today in the first hours of America's invasion of continental Europe. Casualties were heaviest among women and children. Most of the French casualties were the result of artillery fire from American ships attempting to knock out German fortifications prior to the landing of hundreds of thousands of U.S. troops. Reports from a makeshift hospital in the French town of St. Mere Eglise said the carnage was far worse than the French had anticipated, and that reaction against the American invasion was running high. "We are dying for no reason, "said a Frenchman speaking on condition of anonymity.” Americans can't even shoot straight. I never thought I'd say this, but life was better under Adolph Hitler."

The invasion also caused severe environmental damage. American troops, tanks, trucks and machinery destroyed miles of pristine shoreline and thousands of acres of ecologically-sensitive wetlands. It was believed that the habitat of the spineless French crab was completely wiped out, thus threatening the species with extinction.

A representative of Greenpeace said her organization, which had tried to stall the invasion for over a year, was appalled at the destruction, but not surprised. "This is just another example of how the military destroys the environment without a second thought," said Christine Moanmore. "And it's all about corporate greed." Contacted at his Manhattan condo, a member of the French government-in-exile who abandoned Paris when Hitler invaded said the invasion was based solely on American financial interests. "Everyone knows that President Roosevelt has ties to 'big beer'," said Pierre LeWimp. "Once the German beer industry is conquered, Roosevelt's beer cronies will control the world market and make a fortune."

Administration supporters said America's aggressive actions were based in part on the assertions of controversial scientist Albert Einstein, who sent a letter to Roosevelt speculating that the Germans were developing a secret weapon -- a so-called "atomic bomb." Such a weapon could produce casualties on a scale never seen before, and cause environmental damage that could last for thousands of years. Hitler has denied having such a weapon, and international inspectors were unable to locate such weapons even after spending two long weekends in Germany.



Shortly after the invasion began, reports surfaced that German prisoners had been abused by American soldiers. Mistreatment of Jews by Germans at their so-called "concentration camps" has been rumored, but so far this remains unproven. Several thousand Americans died during the first hours of the invasion, and French officials are concerned that the uncollected corpses will pose a public-health risk. "The Americans should have planned for this in advance," they said. "It's their mess, and we don't intend to help clean it up!




WAR NEVER SOLVED ANYTHING... EXCEPT SLAVERY, FASCISM, COMMUNISM...

[Brotherbob]

Originally Posted by spacenurse

I am afraid he's right. What do you think of this persons opinion?

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/11/op...1herbert.html?

I agree with the article, this is the opinion of many europeans.

Bush opened a can of worms.

1Tulip, this is not WW2 and US was not attacked by Irak. There have been wars for just causes, and we should be grateful to US for many things, but this is not one of them.

[mwbeah]

Originally Posted by Brotherbob

I agree with the article, this is the opinion of many europeans.

Bush opened a can of worms.

1Tulip, this is not WW2 and US was not attacked by Irak. There have been wars for just causes, and we should be grateful to US for many things, but this is not one of them.

When war happens, young men and women perform their duty in support of a decision made by administrations not generals. Generals make the best plan possible to support the decision and try to win the battle.

Whatever your politics may be, I ask that when you see a young person who is a member of the armed forces, give them a courteous hello and thank them for their service (it really makes their day)

Mike

[Brotherbob]

Originally Posted by mwbeah

Whatever your politics may be, I ask that when you see a young person who is a member of the armed forces, give them a courteous hello and thank them for their service (it really makes their day)

Mike

I mean no disrespect to the soldiers, brave men and women, I have friends among them. Anyway I believe this is not right, but I hope I am wrong. Time will tell.

Robert

[Jessy_RN]

Originally Posted by mwbeah

When war happens, young men and women perform their duty in support of a decision made by administrations not generals. Generals make the best plan possible to support the decision and try to win the battle.

Whatever your politics may be, I ask that when you see a young person who is a member of the armed forces, give them a courteous hello and thank them for their service (it really makes their day)

Mike

Beautiful post .


I am not into politics, (nor wish to open a can of worms) but in my humble opinion, regardless of what the war is for or not for, we should be united as the Americans that we are. Many do not agree with the elected president or his commands, so they will sit there and pout until next election (happens all the time). I am not saying we should totally agree or absolutely love who ever is elected...(I don't agree or like some decisions myslef) but we should owe our leader respect and meanwhile support our troops; after all they are performing their duties (regardless of the cause) to protect and serve their and ultimately our country.

[Brotherbob]

Originally Posted by JessicaGmz

regardless of what the war is for or not for, we should be united as the Americans that we are.

I am not american and maybe should not respond but I hear this often, and I am curious how you are thinking.
If you believe that your government is making a big mistake, would you still stay united? To me this sounds like it does not matter much wether a war has a righteous cause or not.
In the name of freedom, democracy and all of the values US stands for, would not thinking hard and speaking your mind regardless of the goverments opinion be the right thing to do?

No disrespect to Jessica or anybody else

Robert

[mwbeah]

Originally Posted by Brotherbob

I.
In the name of freedom, democracy and all of the values US stands for, would not thinking hard and speaking your mind regardless of the goverments opinion be the right thing to do?

Robert

A U.S. Citizen is a fortunate one, I don't know how extensive your news coverage of America is but rest assured that millions of people with different viewpoints make themself heard each and every day in the States.

Views from both sides are discussed at nauseum on various media types and within all neighborhoods and are never truly decided but are always discussed.

Mike

[Brotherbob]

What is your opinion on the article mwbeah?

[mwbeah]

Originally Posted by Brotherbob

What is your opinion on the article mwbeah?

Being a United States Military Officer I can not express opinions concerning the current Commander in Chief and his administration in a public forum.

Privately I do have an opinion, I just cannot express it here.

Thanks for asking though,
Mike