[Peeps Mcarthur]

Everything those type of "evangilists" do is to raise money.
I'm willing to bet the next thing out of their mouths, or nearly, was that they need God's people to "give all they can to try to reverse those evil forces"........."the phone lines are open, operators standing by".


That's just a different form of terrorism in my oppinion.

[BrandyBSN]

keep in Mine Jerry Falwell's recent history!

He was the preacher that picketed Matthew Shepard's funeral. holding signs that said things like "God Hates Fags", "Aids-God's punishment to Fags"... yeah, you get the idea. Guess he skipped the verse at 1 John 4:8 "He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. "

But it does suprise me that Pat agreed with him...

Here is my thought in all of this:

John 16:33
These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.


BrandyBSN

[dtweed]

Those men are wrong. God loves us all and he will take care of us. We are human and we make mistakes, but God forgives with love. If people like this continue to condemn those who are different , then they will have to answer to God. There are many things I don't believe are right in this world such as homosexuality, and abortion. but I do not condemn the people who practice this. I pray that I love and accept them as God does. We need more people to love and not condemn. We also need more people to be tolerant of each others shortcomings in the work place. I say I pick and choose my fights because I want my energy to be put to good. I will be behind the fight we are facing now with all my energy and prays. if they still needed nurses I would be on my way.

[Q.]

Originally posted by oramar
Jesus released us from all of that. Yes human being suffer the consequences of their actions but it is not God doing it to us.

I agree wholeheartedly.
It's also called free will .

[majic65]

While it is reassuring to read all your posts disagreeing with these 2 "learned religious" men, the scary thing is that there are many people who agree with them. I have read and heard support for those statements--not a lot, but any suport for that kind of thing is very scary.
This is EXACTLY the kind of religious fanaticism that destroyed the World Trade Centers--EXACTLY.

[LoisJean]

A question was once posed: 'Who's side is God on?' The answer: 'Why, on the side of the suffering, of course.'

As a nation I believe we are suffering....(I sense this because the weight on my heart is too great to be just my own)...a tragic, horrible and incomprehensible loss and in our loss, so does the world lose. We will suffer more- and so will others as this all unfolds. There is no one not affected by this horrific act of terror perpetrated upon our people. We hold all of our own in our hearts--we hold each other; we hold the souls of those ripped from us and we hold, in our way, the souls of those who did this to us: for as half of our hearts weep for our own, so does the other half desire justice...this in itself is a suffering, too.
The preachers and soothsayers all all about. They say what they will and we have the response of 'No, Yes or Maybe'.

Sadam Husain, (a terrorist of great cunning and skill), told us on the eve of the Gulf War that it would be, "The Mother of all wars"-how far into the future was he looking?; IRA terrorists touch off the bombs of 'rightness' and Palestinian terrorists have giggled with each body part that adds to the gore and blood in Israli market squares. The bodies of mothers holding their children are still stacked in graves throughout the pastures Bosnia and Serbia...by-products of a relentless religious terrorism that mirrors well the images of Taliban or Jihad. Shall I add Christian Fundamentalism to the list also? Where ever it is and why ever it is, it demands retaliation and the soils of our world soak up the blood and tears. And so within the human nature is hate and in that hate lies the horrible seeds of suffering.

And so the spawn of terrorism has come to us. Can we say with any certainity now that we can look upon our America as a safe harbor? Can we look across our waters and now understand what the suffering suffer?

God is on the side of the suffering. Pity to the Robertsons and Falwells...they are bluffing inside of their psuedo christianity: they really don't have a clue.

[nurs4kids]

If we only had the resources to obtain the media coverage these two do. The flip side of their comments could be, "God is punishing America because we allow idiots like Falwell and Robertson to call themselves evangelist." These two are pathetic. I can not understand someone who presents himself as a "man of God" preaching intolerance and hate. Any man who preaches hate, as opposed to acceptance and love, is not representing my God!

I agree, these do represent another form of terrorism. They terrorize the innocent, the uneducated and the old. But, yanno..it's them who will have to answer to God for their judgemental attitudes, for their fakeness...not I. So, I'll loose no sleep worrying over their stupidity.

[efiebke]

I have always believed that fanaticism/extremism in any religion is dangerous. . . and there's a lot of this "fanaticism/extremism" in this little world of ours.

Ted Fiebke

[lpnandloveit1]

I think Jerry would be very happy with the Talibans there is in o abortion (they can kill you for that) there are no civil rights there are no feminists (they can kill you for that) there is no homosexuality (they can kill you for that). Sounds perfect!!!! I agree that these men can hold any opinion that they want and can say anything that they want, But I can say that I think that they are a coulple of close minded pompus religious idiots for imposing their narrow minded views on me and the general population of the world too.

[VickyRN]

Source: http://www.cbn.com

Pat Robertson's Letter to U.S. Newspaper Editors


By Pat Robertson


PatRobertson.com -
Letter to the Editor:

There has been considerable discussion in your paper, including letters to the editor, concerning the statement of an evangelical leader to the tragedy that struck our land on September 11th. I have seen a great deal of misinformation, misstatements of fact, snippets of conversation wrenched out of context, and vicious criticism of sentiments attributed to me which I have never articulated.

A guest on my program, "The 700 Club," Dr. Jerry Falwell, made remarks that I have disavowed as intemperate and inappropriate, and for which he has personally apologized. On the ABC program "Good Morning America," he categorically stated that he was responsible for those remarks, and that "Pat Robertson did not make them and should not be held accountable for them." In this, he spoke the truth.

Although I have never expressed the statements that are attributed to Dr. Falwell, I have said that in this time of national crisis it behooved us to humble ourselves before Almighty God, to confess our sins before Him, and to ask for His protection as we engage in what could be a ten-year struggle against terrorism.

I believe that criticism leveled at me would not have been so vitriolic had the writers read the words of President Abraham Lincoln written on March 30, 1863 when he said:


"It is the duty of nations, as well as of men to own their dependence on the overruling power of God; to confess their sins and transgressions in humble sorrow, yet with assured hope that genuine repentance will lead to mercy and pardon...And insomuch as we know that by His divine law nations, like individuals, are subjected to punishments and chastisements in this world, may we not justly fear that the awful calamity of civil war which now desolates the land may be but a punishment inflicted upon us for our presumptuous sins, to the needful end of our national reformation as a whole people?...Intoxicated with unbroken success, we have become too self-sufficient to feel the necessity of redeeming and preserving grace, too proud to pray to the God that made us…It behooves us, then, to humble ourselves before the offended Power, to confess our national sins, and to pray for clemency and forgiveness."
Why has a statement that was so universally acclaimed in 1863 become the object of scorn and ridicule when made in a slightly different form in the year 2001? I do not know what others will do, but I choose to follow the advice of Abraham Lincoln.

Sincerely,

Pat Robertson