[bethin]

Well, at least Libby wasn't granted a full pardon:


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070703/...cia_leak_trial

[DarrenWright]

Originally Posted by bethin

Well, at least Libby wasn't granted a full pardon:


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070703/...cia_leak_trial

Well, not everyone can get away with lying under oath.

[multicollinearity]

Sadly, there is no accountability. I'm sure that Scooter will pay the 250k fine out of his legal fund. Millions donated by those-in-the-know in the Republican party.

So he may as well have been pardoned. The big deal was prison, and he's not going to prison. His probation or whatever? Not a big deal.

Of course, we all expected this or something similar.

[ZASHAGALKA]

Libby should have been given a medal for being a key figure in exposing the watergatesque attempt of a gov't official to hide behind a cloak of secrecy while using that gov't position to attempt to undermine a Presidential election.

Plame and Wilson should go to jail.

I believe that.

A good decision, but he deserved an outright pardon.

~faith,
Timothy.

[bethin]

Originally Posted by ZASHAGALKA

Plame and Wilson should go to jail.

Plame, I believe was just outright ousted. For the love of God, she was a covert CIA operative in the Middle East (I think Iran to be exact). I do think that she used her husband, Wilson, an ex ambassador to further her efforts but the fact remains she was exposed. My worries lie with her life. She was covert.

I read in the Washington Post when this first came to light that her work in the Middle East was revealing some interesting information that could be damaging to the Bush administration.

I wasn't alive during Watergate but it does reek of Watergatesqueness (yeah, I know it's not a word). Coverup, lies, but then again, what's Washington without coverups and lies? Except I don't think any sex was involved.

BTW, where have you been? Haven't seen any of your posts for awhile.

[ZASHAGALKA]

Originally Posted by bethin

Plame, I believe was just outright ousted. For the love of God, she was a covert CIA operative in the Middle East (I think Iran to be exact). I do think that she used her husband, Wilson, an ex ambassador to further her efforts but the fact remains she was exposed. My worries lie with her life. She was covert.

I read in the Washington Post when this first came to light that her work in the Middle East was revealing some interesting information that could be damaging to the Bush administration.

I wasn't alive during Watergate but it does reek of Watergatesqueness (yeah, I know it's not a word). Coverup, lies, but then again, what's Washington without coverups and lies? Except I don't think any sex was involved.

BTW, where have you been? Haven't seen any of your posts for awhile.

She was using her position to illegally undermine a PRESIDENTIAL election. People go to jail for that. Ask G. Gordon Liddy.

She wasn't a covert agent; she had a desk job in Virginia. She was only USING her alleged covert status as a cover from which to manipulate the election. That's a felony.

Besides, Libby wasn't tried or convicted for exposing her cover. Richard Armitage (at the State Dept; not a WH employee) did that, and Fitzgerald knew that from the beginning.

As far as where I've been, well, there's this girl . . .

~faith,
Timothy.

[bethin]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...pt_031607.html

From the transcripts:


In June and July 2003, one of the nation's most carefully guarded secrets, the identity of a covert CIA agent, Valerie Plame Wilson, was repeatedly revealed by White House officials to members of the media.

This was an extraordinarily serious breach of our national security.
President George W. Bush's father, the former President Bush, said, and I quote, "I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who expose the names of our sources. They are, in my view, the most insidious of traitors."


Whether she had a desk job or not, she was a covert CIA agent.

[bethin]

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As far as where I've been, well, there's this girl . . .
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Good news I hope!

[ZASHAGALKA]

Originally Posted by bethin

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...pt_031607.html

From the transcripts:


In June and July 2003, one of the nation's most carefully guarded secrets, the identity of a covert CIA agent, Valerie Plame Wilson, was repeatedly revealed by White House officials to members of the media.

This was an extraordinarily serious breach of our national security.
President George W. Bush's father, the former President Bush, said, and I quote, "I have nothing but contempt and anger for those who expose the names of our sources. They are, in my view, the most insidious of traitors."


Whether she had a desk job or not, she was a covert CIA agent.

It wasn't one of this nation's most carefully guarded secrets. Sheesh. Talk about hyperbole.

As a matter of fact, any of several foreign delegations from D.C. can sit and watch which cars go into Langley and infer who works there. Many do.

It's like an undercover cop manning a desk out front at the police station. Doesn't make you very undercover.

And, for the record, the "secret" was NOT revealed by the WH. It was Armitage at State, a career official.

Libby was neither charged nor convicted of revealing her identity.

~faith,
Timothy.

[VickyRN]

I agree with ZASHAGALKA. From the start, the whole thing was just a politically-contrived "much ado about nothing." Libby not only deserves a pardon, but a medal for enduring all this fanfaronade.