[Torachan]

angel337 - please excuse my ignorance but what is a med-tech?

[Sheri257]

Originally Posted by Dixiedi

I said it is OK for the illegal migrant workers to take the chances they take. It's their choice and they do not detract from our jobs. However, if they want to apply for a green card to relieve themselves of the chances of getting deported, fine. But, that green card should be ONLY for migrant farm work. No other job. Migrant farm work. Period. Besides, we would them be able to collect a little income tax from them and the condition of their green card be "Migrant Farm work. No work, return to Mexico." We all benefit. If they don't want to pay the income tax to "be legal" then they continue to risk being deported. Their choice.

First you said no immigrants at all. But now it's ok for immigrants to come here and work as farm workers, and only as farm workers, so you can continue to buy cheap food, but they can't do anything else.

Well, I guess that's what this is really about. Immigration is ok as long as it serves your own self interests, but not if it doesn't.

[Saved_by_Grace]

What I will never understand is that if there is such a "shortage" of nurses, then why on earth don't they expand the nursing programs? At my little community college alone there were 306 applicants for the fall nursing program and only 45 students were accepted. I know all across America there are 2-4 year waiting lists to get into the nursing programs. Wouldn't expanding the programs to train more nurses help alleviate the shortage or is that too simple?

[nightingale]

Originally Posted by WannaBLPN2005

What I will never understand is that if there is such a "shortage" of nurses, then why on earth don't they expand the nursing programs? At my little community college alone there were 306 applicants for the fall nursing program and only 45 students were accepted. I know all across America there are 2-4 year waiting lists to get into the nursing programs. Wouldn't expanding the programs to train more nurses help alleviate the shortage or is that too simple?

WannabeLPN: Because there is also a shortage of Nursing Instructors.

Torchan:Med-Tech is someone specifically trained to administer meds. It is legal here in Colorado . Can ya tell I am NOT a big advocate of it? Would anyone else like to expand on that answer?

night

[Saved_by_Grace]

Originally Posted by nightngale1998

WannabeLPN: Because there is also a shortage of Nursing Instructors.

Torchan:Med-Tech is someone specifically trained to administer meds. It is legal here in Colorado . Can ya tell I am NOT a big advocate of it? Would anyone else like to expand on that answer?

night

Ok Nightngale, that makes sense. Don't know why I didn't know about that part of the shortage as well. Thank you!

[angel337]

Originally Posted by Torachan

angel337 - please excuse my ignorance but what is a med-tech?

i learned about med techs on this board. i had not heard of them either until then. supposedly they are technicians who are trained to pass meds under the direction of the RN or LPN. they offer the program in only a few states. like i said i don't have a lot of information on it and maybe you can find it on this board by doing a search. i honestly don't see how this kind of job could be created. i don't see how this would work in acute care maybe it is only in LTC.

[Sheri257]

Originally Posted by WannaBLPN2005

Ok Nightngale, that makes sense. Don't know why I didn't know about that part of the shortage as well. Thank you!

Another obstacle is arranging for the hospitals to take more students for clinicals. At least, that's what my school administrators say.

I agree that people tend to ignore the schools when they talk about the shortage. It's weird since, obviously, it's a major factor.

[TheBigBadDog]

This stupid idea has been propagated by hospitals and the other abusers of nurses. It is a matter of supply and demand, they only want to pay low wages so the supply is low. If wages go up the supply will increase! If the supply increases the wages will go down. The supply is low because most nurses leave this field because once they enter nursing they find out how crappy they are treated by hospitals, doctors, etc. Wages in other fields are much higher at the middle and upper experience brackets. The U.S. Congress has undertaken a WAR against the nurses in the U.S. to keep our wages low through keeping the supply of nurses excessively high! American nurses will return to nursing as the wages rise and hospitals change thier policies and treatment of nurses.

[mattsmom81]

So true BigBadDog. We are meeting our labor need by allowing immigration of foreigners to fill the need. I have no problem with that, if they speak the language well and become legal citizens and meet responsibilities of citizenship. In other words, to become part of the 'melting pot' and be Americans first. if they come here to cash their extended family into america's welfare, SSD and Medicaid benefits, and to live 5 families to one house and send their $$$ back to their 3rd world country, I call them carpetbaggers. I do see too much of this today.

But...nobody seems to care. I work with BSN's from foreign countries who speak such poor English I worry about working with them. But bottom line... TPTB have a cheap, warm body that will draw liability away from them. <sigh>

so...I do my job and avoid supervising these types. I don't need the liability.

[trish820]

Where I live in Southern Ohio we have 20+ openings at the hospital that I work at and this is only for RN's.

Trish