#1 Nursing Community for Nurses: 311,081 Members

Log in   Sign up   Why join?   | Layout: Switch to narrow layout Color: gold style blue style rose style
Nursing Community for Nurses
Home Forums Articles Specialty Students Region Career Resources

Advanced Search Site Help Site Map

Move to Canada?



Currently Online
Members: 346
Guests: 3,067
3,413

Job Spotlight
ER & L&D RN
Houston, Texas
Forum Spotlight
Distance Learning for Nursing

Nursing Degrees

Nursing Articles

It is my X-ray
Thanksgiving Humor
Halloween Humor
Night Nurse III: Slip-Slidin' Awaaaaaaay
Lights out
Stand at attention!!!
2 am admission
funny nursing stories
Night Nurse II: I Tawt I Taw A Puddy-Tat!
Orientation Day LPN to RN
Submit An Article

Nursing Jobs

Job Seeker: Employer:

Scrubs & Gear

Newsletter

Interested in the hottest topics of the week? Subscribe to the free allnurses.com Nurse-zine Newsletter.

Enter email address:


Read current:
Nursing Newsletter

How-To allnurses

allnurses videos

Welcome to allnurses: A Nursing Community for Nurses

The largest most active online nursing community. Join 311,081 nurses from around the world to learn, communicate, and network. For full allnurses.com access, register today - it's free! Problems during registration? Please don't hesitate to contact support.

Would you like to comment?
Join or Login if already a member.
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old Feb 14, 2004, 06:43 AM
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2003
Move to Canada?

Hello, I am a nurse in the USa and saw this article and thought you may find it interesting.
My fellow Americans: Want a health tip? Move to Canada.


An impressive array of comparative data shows that Canadians live
longer and healthier lives than we do. What's more, they pay roughly half as
much per capita as we do -- $2,163 versus $4,887 in 2001 -- for the
privilege.

Exactly why Canadians fare better is the subject of considerable
academic debate. Some policy wonks say it's Canada's single-payer, universal
health coverage system. Others point to Canadians' different ethnic
mix. Some think it's because they use fewer illegal drugs and shoot each
other less with guns, though they do smoke and drink with gusto.

Still others think Canadians are healthier because their medical system
is tilted more toward primary-care doctors and less toward specialists.
And some believe it's something more fundamental -- a smaller gap
between rich and poor.

Perhaps it's all of the above. But there is no arguing the basics.

"By all measures, Canadians' health is better," said Dr. Barbara
Starfield, a university distinguished professor at Johns Hopkins Medical
Institutions. Canadians "do better on a whole variety of health outcomes,"
she said, "including life expectancy at various ages -- 1, 15, 20, 45,
65, 80, you name it."

According to a World Health Organization report published last year,
life expectancy at birth in Canada is 79.8 years versus 77.3 in the
United States (Japan's is 81.9.). Canada now ranks fifth in life expectancy
at birth (after Japan, Sweden, Hong Kong and Iceland), while the United
States ranks 26th, according to the United Nations Human Development
Report.

"There isn't a single measure in which the US excels in the health
arena," said Dr. Stephen Bezruchka, a senior lecturer in the School of
Public Health at the University of Washington in Seattle. "We spend half of
the world's health care bill and we are less healthy than all the other
rich countries.

"Fifty-five years ago, we were one of the healthiest countries in the
world. What changed? We have increased the gap between rich and poor.
Nothing determines the health of a population [more] than the gap between
rich and poor."

Infant-mortality rates also show striking differences between the
United States and Canada, according to Dr. Clyde Hertzman, associate
director of the Centre for Health Services and Policy Research at the
University of British Columbia in Vancouver. To counter the argument that
racial differences play a major role, Hertzman compared infant mortality for
all Canadians with that for white Americans between 1970 and 1998. The
white US infant mortality rate was roughly six deaths per 1,000 babies,
compared to slightly more than five for Canadians.

Maternal mortality shows a substantial gap as well. According to data
published last year by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and
Development, an international think-tank, there were 3.4 maternal deaths
for every 100,000 births among Canadians compared to a 9.8 among all
Americans.

And more than half of Canadians with severe mental disorders received
treatment, compared to little more than a third of Americans, according
to the May-June 2003 issue of Health Affairs.

Dr. Steffie Woolhandler, an associate professor at Harvard Medical
School, general internist at Cambridge Hospital and staunch advocate of a
single-payer system, said she believes "the summary of the evidence has
to be that national health insurance has improved the health of
Canadians and is responsible for some of the longer life expectancy."

On the other hand, there are some causes of death that wouldn't be much
affected by having the government pick up the health care tab -- like
homicide. And the United States, Bezruckha said, has "the highest
homicide rate of all the rich countries."

"Other things might be differences in seat-belt usage," said Robert
Blendon, a professor of health policy and political analysis at the
Harvard School of Public Health. "We are also disproportionate consumers of
illegal drugs, much more than Canada, so it's cultural. The health of
Americans would be better if we had universal health care, but there are
some things that a single-payer system wouldn't fix, but which would
leave one country looking healthier in the statistics." In some respects,
the health care system is "the tail on the dog," said Dr. Arnie
Epstein, chairman of the department of health policy and medicine at the
Harvard School of Public Health. "It's other aspects of the social fabric of
different countries that seem to have a major impact on how long people
live."

Like ethnicity. In the United States, African-Americans and Latinos
"face problems of housing, stress and low income which have nothing to do
with a single-payer system," Blendon said. Canada has a large number of
Asian immigrants, he said, but they, like Asian immigrants in the
United States, tend to do well on health care measures.

The bottom line is that Canada is doing something right, even if "the
reasons are not totally understood," said Kominski of UCLA.

So, should we all move to Canada? Probably. But it's just too cold.

Judy Foreman is a freelance columnist who can be contacted at
foreman@globe.com.
© Copyright 2004 Globe Newspaper Company.

Top
  #2  
Old Feb 14, 2004, 12:22 PM
Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003

Well ya'll come on up here! We have a nursing shortage as well, more nurses will help us out. And its not really any colder than living in North Dakota.........or Montana........any of your northern States.........you'd get used to it!!!!!!!

Top
  #3  
Old Feb 14, 2004, 01:40 PM
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2000

When it comes to maternal-newborn care, I wonder if the differences have to do with prenatal care? This is just my personal observation, but I regularly had patients in the US who hadn't received prenatal care, wheras in Canada that is really rare.

Top
  #4  
Old Feb 16, 2004, 12:00 PM
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2001

It may be colder up here but we sure know how to have fun in the snow!

Top
  #5  
Old Sep 11, 2006, 07:38 PM
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2005
Thumbs up Re: Move to Canada?

Thank you fawnsternurse for your very professional comments!
I know that it was written a while ago but is still of interest!
Your fellow Canadian living in Buffalo!

Top
  #6  
Old Sep 12, 2006, 07:53 AM
Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2005
Re: Move to Canada?

Originally Posted by Loppear
Well ya'll come on up here! We have a nursing shortage as well, more nurses will help us out. And its not really any colder than living in North Dakota.........or Montana........any of your northern States.........you'd get used to it!!!!!!!
Really trying to!

Top
  #7  
Old Sep 12, 2006, 08:03 AM
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2006
Re: Move to Canada?

I am working on it, I cannot wait to be there. I ant to live and work in Newfoundland. We are just starting the process. did I say I can not wait, oh yeah. I LOVE Newfoundland!!!!!!!!!!!! Acadia RN husband is ready to go as well.

Top
  #8  
Old Sep 13, 2006, 09:37 PM
Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2006
Re: Move to Canada?

hey there acadia
do you have any advice or info on the process?? I am an RN (British) but have lived and worked in USA all my life. NICU, L&D etc. Want to move to Vancouver BC.
Any help would be valued!!
Thanks

Top
  #9  
Old Sep 13, 2006, 10:06 PM
Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2006
Re: Move to Canada?

Hi jjennyrn,
What we have been doing is going to the government site. It has had a great deal of information to read through. Newfoundland has a nice site.We really havn`t gotten too far along, it is slow going and of course, I wish we were there yesterday We did just receive the Canadian application for nursing license. So, you might try the gov. site for BC (another beautiful Province!!!) I have not been there since the 70`s, so I am sure much has changed.cadia

Top
  #10  
Old Sep 30, 2006, 11:36 PM
Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2006
Re: Move to Canada?

Very interesting! I agree that as a nation our health could be much better. But as individuals, we can each choose to be as healthy as can be and live wherever we want. For example, I eat right, exercise and watch what chemicals I put into my body through my skin, mouth, cleaning chemicals and furnishings in my home, etc. etc. Moving would not increase my health. As Americans we simply have to imitate what others are doing right, and stay put.

I think I have a unique perspective on the 2 countries. I was born in Canada, 1/2 of my family lives there, 1/2 lives in the US. I have never lived there and have no desire to. I travel there all the time to visit. Growing up, I would "argue" with my cousins about which is better! It was a fun game, but of course they both have their perks. They couldn"t argue with the fact that almost everything in Canada comes from the US (I lovingly call them US wanna bees- or clones of our country)

Besides great people, 2 things comes to mind about Canada, they have beautiful mountains, every bit as nice as our Rockies, and they have great wilderness & wide open spaces.

But there is no way I would give up ten thousand great things about America (including beatiful warm beaches--warm enough to actually swim in the ocean!)

As for healthcare, I like the American system. If I'm healthy I'm not forced to pay for something I'm not using. I have freedom to choose where I go for healthcare, and competition gives us the greatest care on the face of the earth.

In summary, there is a lot more to life than living a couple more years. When I get old I will probably have sores and pains and I will be longing to be with my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ in paradise!

Top
Sponsored Links
 
Would you like to comment?
Join or Login if already a member.



Currently Active Users Viewing: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search



New To Site?
Need Help?

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:08 AM.

Move to Canada?

Copyright © 1996-2008, allnurses.com. All rights reserved.  allnurses.com, Inc. Advertising Information