[CRNA2007]

Your current social security and medicare is being spent on todays retirees. When you retire it will be on the backs of our precious children that can't afford their own health care let alone yours. How could you be so heartless as to force poor children to fund your retirement and health care? Sound familiar??????

Originally Posted by spacenurse

I'm looking at my most recent pay stub. Federal income withholding was $591.71.

This does not include Medicare or social security insurance which totaled $334.92. I am glad to pay for these insurance programs. I may die and never collect Social Security or use Medicare health insurance. If that happens other Americans will benefit from my participation.
Then again I may live to 100. Hopefully then I won't have to die homeless on the street because SS and Medicare will allow for basic needs.

So why not let working people buy into Medicare?
It is much more efficient already than private insurance.

[Spidey's mom]

Originally Posted by CRNA2007

Your current social security and medicare is being spent on todays retirees. When you retire it will be on the backs of our precious children that can't afford their own health care let alone yours. How could you be so heartless as to force poor children to fund your retirement and health care? Sound familiar??????

[pickledpepperRN]

Originally Posted by sharona97

Sorry but that is not my post.

Sorry:

I think I edited mine OK.
I'll report that the program is making errors.

[jlsRN]

Originally Posted by CRNA2007

I know. It's called life, and guess what... It ain't fair. Next I suppose someone is going to suggest people who don't have house insurance and their house burns down should get a new house.

Are you for real???

[HM2Viking]

Originally Posted by CRNA2007

I know. It's called life, and guess what... It ain't fair. Next I suppose someone is going to suggest people who don't have house insurance and their house burns down should get a new house.

Unbelievable.....

[pickledpepperRN]

Originally Posted by CRNA2007

Wow, your family would allow you to die homeless and on the streets?Interesting...

I want to do all I can to help my family. We are all brothers and sisters.
I believe we are God's children.

[sharona97]

Originally Posted by CRNA2007

Your current social security and medicare is being spent on todays retirees. When you retire it will be on the backs of our precious children that can't afford their own health care let alone yours. How could you be so heartless as to force poor children to fund your retirement and health care? Sound familiar??????

CRNA: That is how the SS system has been set up since day 1. Are you saying when you retire you wouldn't accept a social security check? I don't understand why you feel we are putting a burden on our children. Our parents paid in money during there working years and there parents before them, it's an ogoing process.

Of course there is the work ethic issue that worries me. I hope it doesn't dwindle so our children will have SS at their retirement. In that respect I would want goverment to keep their hands out of the cookie jar.

[sharona97]

Originally Posted by spacenurse

Sorry:

I think I edited mine OK.
I'll report that the program is making errors.

No problem sista!!!!!!!!

[Emmanuel Goldstein]

Originally Posted by spacenurse

I don't think anyone should be denied healthcare. Especially a nurse who has worked for 30 years.
I think it should be OK to change jobs and still have access to healthcare.
I think it should be OK to move to another state and still have access to healthcare.
I think a man should be able to retire and his wife change jobs and still have access to healthcare.

I think they were being responsible by purchasing a policy.

But their story is published. Yes she was a traveler, then per diem. Shouldn't everyone have access to healthcare?

WHO should be denied access to healthcare?

"...get an education get a good job and you will have health care"

Right.

I guess the nurse in your article just didn't get enough education, eh?

“The tragedy of the situation is that the healthcare mess is totally preventable,” said Campbell. “It’s a product of greed, not a product of lack of resources. There’s this middleman mentality that you’ve got to get profit to the insurance company. There’s no logic. It’s obscene that in this, the richest country in the world, we can’t take care of our own people.”

Nailed it.

[Emmanuel Goldstein]

Originally Posted by HM2Viking

Insurance by definition is a spreading of risk across a group of people so that no one single person or family is subject to more risk than they can bear. Simple human decency would drive most people to ask "what is wrong with this picture?" To leave a hardworking family who played by the rules "on the outside looking in" as a result of a catastrophic illness is not compassionate by any reasonable definition. When a man is drowning you throw him a life jacket.

The attitude of "blame the victim" is a poor reflection of core nursing values of caring and social justice. 31% of our health care dollars in the US are eaten up by the profit motive. The evidence on both fiscal and patient outcome data all indicates that a single payer system yields better results for society as a whole.

We can and must do better for all Americans.

I have insurance through my employer, like most of us who are insured. But in the back of my mind (especially since my CA diagnosis) is the thought that if I suffer a catastrophic illness or injury, I won't be able to work and will be screwed. As an oncology nurse, I've seen this happen far too often. People lose everything. But hey, let's throw the baby out with the bathwater. Wouldn't want to risk those danged illegals gaining access to our healthcare!