How Do I Become a Forensic Nurse/Role of the Forensic Nurse - page 10

This thread is to help educate those interested in becoming a Forensic Nurse as well as help define the role of the forensic nurse. There are programs that prepare the RN as a masters prepared... Read More

  1. Visit  belot97 profile page
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    Studying nursing hasnt been easy for me so at one stage ,i courageously approached my father if i could shift my course to a different area...and when i said criminology...he just disapproved.
    I dont understand it very much but it seems forensic nursing has got a bit to do with being an investigator if m not mistaken...
    i wonder now,m 38...do u think its still worth seeking if i take an interest into pursuing this field?
    opinions..u'r all welcome.
    thanks
  2. Visit  S-Rank profile page
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    Would you need clinical experience to enter this field
  3. Visit  KC4NSICRN profile page
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    To S-Rank,
    Yes, you usually need one year of clinical experience to enter a SANE program. The requirements should be clearly spelled out when you ask about the program, or research education on this.
    To sirI,
    I've heard very good things about the Cali-Riverside program and some of my colleagues in Forensic Nursing have been certified there. IAFN is where i got my start and recommend it highly to anyone interested in this fascinating field.
    To belot97,
    You said you're 38 and asked if it's too late to start. NO way! If you were working on your last day before retiring, let's say, age 65, you're at triage, and a young woman presents herself at midnight wearing huge sunglasses, crying and says she fell all the way down the stairs two days ago. You notice she startles easily when you're getting the equipment out to take her vital signs. You recognize that her story doesn't match what you see and consider that this may be a domestic violence case.
    What I'm trying to say is, that at any age, you STILL have the potential to make a vast difference in someone's life.

    But to everyone who is interested in this field, EVERY area of nursing where you have patient contact is a potential for encountering forensic issues.

    Let's take the woman who comes in at midnight wearing sunglasses and says she fell all the way down the stairs two days ago and startles easily at the slightest sound. What's wrong with this picture?
    1. Sunglasses at midnight-why?
    2. Delay in reporting-why?
    3. She fell all the way down the stairs? Any other injuries consistent with this story? If not, do you consider that nobody falls all the way down the stairs and lands only on her eye.
    4. Why is she coming in at midnight two days after her injury? Is it possibly the only time she could get away from the person who did this to her?
    Let's take another example. someone here said they were an OB nurse. OK, how does that figure in forensic nursing?
    20 weeks pregnant patient comes in bleeding severely and loses the baby. Upon questioning, she admits the father of the baby hit her in the abdomen, initiating the events that follow. Is this case recognized as a coroner's case becuse a traumatic event caused it to happen?How many times does this happen without being recognized as a domestic violence event?
    Another example: You work in a well baby clinic and an infant comes in with a bite mark on her arm. You ask the mother about it and she says the 2 year old older brother did this while playing, but you take a closer look and the bite mark appears much wider than that of a 2 year old. What do you do?
    Does anyone see how we can make a difference at any age in any nursing arena and not JUST sexaul assault?
    I am a Forensic Nurse. My specialties are wound identification, evidence collection, death investigation and domestic violence. I work as a Legal Nurse Consultant, and see that sirI is also an LNC. sirI, What area of LNC do you specialize in?
    I've been reading these forums from afar and will try to be more active but sirI, you are doing a great job here! Let's keep the positive flow of information going. With my dying breath, if I could help one person in the whole wide world, I would do it. Wouldn't you? Every day, we are reminded of how we make a difference in the world!
    I read on another forum that a poster called Cajnet was going to do a forensic seminar in 2004. I never saw anything else on that. Did he ever do it?
    Thanks for letting me be here and adding my 5 cents, cuz 2 cents doesn't get you anything anymore...(smile).
    Good luck!
    KC007
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    Quote from KC4NSICRN


    I am a Forensic Nurse. My specialties are wound identification, evidence collection, death investigation and domestic violence. I work as a Legal Nurse Consultant, and see that sirI is also an LNC. sirI, What area of LNC do you specialize in?
    I've been reading these forums from afar and will try to be more active but sirI, you are doing a great job here! Let's keep the positive flow of information going. With my dying breath, if I could help one person in the whole wide world, I would do it. Wouldn't you? Every day, we are reminded of how we make a difference in the world!
    I read on another forum that a poster called Cajnet was going to do a forensic seminar in 2004. I never saw anything else on that. Did he ever do it?
    Thanks for letting me be here and adding my 5 cents, cuz 2 cents doesn't get you anything anymore...(smile).
    Good luck!
    KC007
    Hello, KC4NSICRN

    My nursing specialty areas are, APN (OB and FNP), OB Cardiology, ED, Forensics, Education. I take any and all consulting cases, however.

    As for Cajnet, you need to contact him/her privately and see if there was follow through or post on the thread Cajnet started. I'm interested as well.

    Good to have you with us. Continued good luck with your career.
  5. Visit  maybenurse1 profile page
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    I was thinking of going into nursing after obtaining a BS in Recreational Therapy and not being able to find a job. I am really interested in Forensic Nursing. However, I have a question for you. I am thinking about doing an Alternate Entry MSN. The first year I will get the prelicense part of the nursing course, then I will have to work for a year and come back to complete the masters section. My question is, say that I do the first phase and obtain the RN status but do not want to get a masters. I would not technically have have a bn or associates in nursing. Can I still get the forensic certificate? I was thinking about FNP or CRNA but what if I decide that I really just want to do forensics and therefore do not want to go to school two more years after getting the RN? I hope this makes sense. I know its not really a traditional question but have no clue what to do. Also, I need to mention the reason I dont want to get a BSN is it would be two more years before I could be a RN vs one year for the accelerated masters. Thanks!
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    Quote from maybenurse1
    I was thinking of going into nursing after obtaining a BS in Recreational Therapy and not being able to find a job. I am really interested in Forensic Nursing. However, I have a question for you. I am thinking about doing an Alternate Entry MSN. The first year I will get the prelicense part of the nursing course, then I will have to work for a year and come back to complete the masters section. My question is, say that I do the first phase and obtain the RN status but do not want to get a masters. I would not technically have have a bn or associates in nursing. Can I still get the forensic certificate? I was thinking about FNP or CRNA but what if I decide that I really just want to do forensics and therefore do not want to go to school two more years after getting the RN? I hope this makes sense. I know its not really a traditional question but have no clue what to do. Also, I need to mention the reason I dont want to get a BSN is it would be two more years before I could be a RN vs one year for the accelerated masters. Thanks!
    Hello and welcome to allnurses.com

    Good to have you with us.

    My question is, say that I do the first phase and obtain the RN status but do not want to get a masters. I would not technically have have a bn or associates in nursing. Can I still get the forensic certificate?
    Probably so. But, to be certain, you must pose this question to the program in which you decide to receive Forensic Nursing education.

    For example: Requirements (not all inclusive) to be certified as a Forensic Nurse with ACFEI include:


    • Hold a current, full, and unrestricted license as a registered nurse (RN) in the United States
    • Have practiced for a minimum of 5 years as a registered nurse in the United States
    • Have successfully completed a formal didactic educational program in forensic nursing

    http://www.acfei.com/forensic_certifications/cfn/



    So, technically the way you are thinking about going, you can still become educated and certified as a Forensic Nurse w/o actually having an ASN, BSN or MSN. Since requirements are "RN", one can have a Diploma to be educated/certified as a Forensic Nurse. There are also programs for the LPN and Paramedic.

    Does your program award the BSN halfway through? You need to check this out, too.

    Good luck with your plans.
  7. Visit  maybenurse1 profile page
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    Thank you for your reply. The program does not offer the bsn halfway through, or even when you get done. When you are finished with the entire program you are awarded the MSN. I just want to make sure that if I change my mind in the middle of the program (after working for a year or so) I can actually do something different with the RN title and a little more schooling without having to go back and get the bsn. My original plan was to try for anethetist school but dont know if I will have enough time to study for that type of program (I am married with a child), and have been out of school for 3 years so my study habits aren't as great. Next I thought about getting into FNP and also doing the forensic nursing (consulting) as well. Any advice? Also, I know that I do not want to be a bedside nurse, are there any other good options for RNs who dont really want to do bedside nursing?
  8. Visit  Itshamrtym profile page
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    lots!!!!!!!!!! case manangement , utiliazation review.., chart review, coding,
    check out of the specialties allnurse has... That may help... legal nurse consultant. paralegal nurse.... it goes on and on... Good luck to you
  9. Visit  maybenurse1 profile page
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    Thank you Itshamrtym. I appreciate your feedback. For some reason I am just nervous that I will get into nursing and then not like it but be stuck. I am a 25 yo male who really likes adventure but also does not enjoy mass chaos (which I am sure I would have due to the fact that I have to have a year of critical care to get my masters). Thats why I am thinking forensic nursing might be a good way to go. I think that it would have excitement but not as much chaos as the ER/ED.
  10. Visit  sirI profile page
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    Quote from maybenurse1
    Thank you for your reply. The program does not offer the bsn halfway through, or even when you get done. When you are finished with the entire program you are awarded the MSN. I just want to make sure that if I change my mind in the middle of the program (after working for a year or so) I can actually do something different with the RN title and a little more schooling without having to go back and get the bsn. My original plan was to try for anethetist school but dont know if I will have enough time to study for that type of program (I am married with a child), and have been out of school for 3 years so my study habits aren't as great. Next I thought about getting into FNP and also doing the forensic nursing (consulting) as well. Any advice? Also, I know that I do not want to be a bedside nurse, are there any other good options for RNs who dont really want to do bedside nursing?
    Some programs do confer the BSN halfway through, that's why I wanted you to know if yours did.

    You may find it difficult to further your education in nursing w/o a degree. If you do not complete the MSN program (in your school), you will not have a degree and therefore, may not be able to move forward in your education. I know of some individuals who dropped out of an RN program (after they sat for RN NCLEX) at the very end and were not allowed to practice as an RN except in that particular state (California). And, although they were RN, they could not endorse to another state for they did not actually possess a degree. So, be very careful with that decision.

    Since you already have a BS in another discipline, you can do the alternate entry to obtain NP, but you will still have to do the entire program even if you finish halfway through and able to sit for RN NCLEX.

    For some reason I am just nervous that I will get into nursing and then not like it but be stuck. I am a 25 yo male who really likes adventure but also does not enjoy mass chaos (which I am sure I would have due to the fact that I have to have a year of critical care to get my masters). Thats why I am thinking forensic nursing might be a good way to go. I think that it would have excitement but not as much chaos as the ER/ED
    You may not like it. Nursing is not for everyone. Not a thing wrong with that.

    If you are drawn to the "adrenaline rush" of things, you might look into becoming a Paramedic, then go into Forensics. There are Forensic programs for Paramedics, too.

    Just take your time and research your various options. You might, after entering into a nursing program, discover a whole other part of nursing that you are drawn to....

    Good luck.
  11. Visit  smuggy profile page
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    I am an RN from the Philippines, and I am very interested with forensic nursing. Since such course is not offered here, I am hoping you can help me find an institution where I can get Forensic Nursing education online. Thank you!
  12. Visit  sirI profile page
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    Hello, smuggy and Welcome to allnurses.com. We are glad to have you with us.

    Just read through the first page of this thread and you will find several entities where you can be educated as a Forensic Nurse.

    We hope you enjoy allnurses.com and good luck with your career plans as a Forensic Nurse.
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  13. Visit  lyndsay1985 profile page
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    Hi, My name is Lyndsay I just currently recevied my Lpn licensure and as of this fall i am entering my RN nursing program. This is a field I am interested in as well and i was just wondering exactly how would one go about getting into this field? or what classes to take?

    thanks so much for all your help
    lyndsay

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