Orange county SCC or VCC? - page 2

hello. this is my first time posting. i just recently decided that i would like to become a nurse. i want to work in labor and delivery. well the question that i have is, is seminole or valencia... Read More

  1. by   Cococure
    Quote from luv4nursing
    this is a good point and you are right. it is difficult to get a job in the hospital as an lpn unless u have hospital experience which basically means you would have to have been an lpn since back in the day when the hospitals hired them a lot. this is mainly bc techs can be trained to do most of an lpns job for less money...
    i would suggest going thru the application process to all the lpn and rn programs and just see where u get in first. its also true that once you graduate, noone really cares where u got ur degree, they just want u to pass the boards and get ur license!

    i am a tech and i don't think neccessarily think they train techs to do and lpn's job...lpn's at the hospitals does everything and rn does except iv push narcotics and hang blood...the hospitals does pay lpn's a lot less which i think is unfair... after you graduate home health agencies is a good place to work and get use to nursing esp pediatrics...

    well good luck to you and all the best:spin:
    also check out orlando tech program there is no waiting list, it's first come first serve as long as you get all the paperwork done
  2. by   luv4nursing
    When we were in clinical at O Tech, they had the techs on the floor doing blood sugars, drawing blood, ekgs, I even heard they can put in catheters with a certain training or something. I dont even know how to draw blood and Im an LPN lol. I dont know about EKGs either. Im about to take a CEU class for blood drawing and EKGs though. We talked about it a lot in school, the teachers were against techs having such a wide scope of practice now days. They felt they were able to learn the skill but werent being taught the physiology behind it, so for example they may not care much about using sterile technique when putting in a cath bc they dont know the consequences of not doing so...or maybe they are checking blood sugars but dont know the effects of high or low blood sugar. There was a time when all techs did was bathe, change sheets, ambulate, etc. Im amazed that many of them know how to do things I havent even learned yet. Also, another funny fact is that some of the girls in my class who had been a tech for years found out that the starting hospital pay as an LPN was less than they were currently making as a tech! Thats why I wasnt interested in stepping foot in a hospital as an LPN...I worked too hard in school to not be compensated properly. Many say LPNs are glorified techs in the hospital....I dont know why though. Maybe bc they still have to report to an RN even if they can do most of the same work. Im a little dissapointed bc the starting RN salary isnt much to write home about either lol. But once u get a little experience, u can write your own ticket...work agency for top dollar, etc.

    Coco, are u going to go to Orlando Tech for your LPN? Its a great program.
  3. by   Cococure
    [quote=coco, are u going to go to orlando tech for your lpn? its a great program.[/quote]

    hey luv4nursing,
    i was going to pursue the lpn path at o-tech but changed my mind because i have to work full-time and the o-tech programs is days...

    i think it's a good idea to train techs to do more than change beds and ambulate that's why i work at a hospital vs a nursing home. the hospital trains you to insert and discontinue foleys, d/c saline locks, small dressings changes, foleys, ekg's, (if you work in the er) accuchecks, blooddraws etc. the hospital trains you on all the procedures and you have to be watched by your rn before you can do it on your own...and we do know the effects of lets say a low or high blood sugar. when nurses work on a very busy pcu floor and their tech is able to do more that just feed patients they are very glad cuz they need all the help they can get. i found a patient that was sliping into a diabetic coma...thank goodness i knew what do look for and what to do...my nurse thanked me all night....lpn's are not glorified techs the lpn's i work with don't report to an rn unless they need iv push med or some problem...they are autonomous!

    you are right when it comes to the lpn's salary it is very very low at the hospitals that's another reason that i decided not to pursue the lpn route. i want to work in mother/baby & l&d also and they are very weary about hiring lpn's. also the hospital would not pay for the lpn schooling as they would the rn program. the pay in fl sucks on a whole but after a little experience you will make the bucks also most people get their money in o/t if they offer it i will take as much as possible
  4. by   luv4nursing
    Quote from cococure

    hey luv4nursing,
    i was going to pursue the lpn path at o-tech but changed my mind because i have to work full-time and the o-tech programs is days...

    i think it's a good idea to train techs to do more than change beds and ambulate that's why i work at a hospital vs a nursing home. the hospital trains you to insert and discontinue foleys, d/c saline locks, small dressings changes, foleys, ekg's, (if you work in the er) accuchecks, blooddraws etc. the hospital trains you on all the procedures and you have to be watched by your rn before you can do it on your own...and we do know the effects of lets say a low or high blood sugar. when nurses work on a very busy pcu floor and their tech is able to do more that just feed patients they are very glad cuz they need all the help they can get. i found a patient that was sliping into a diabetic coma...thank goodness i knew what do look for and what to do...my nurse thanked me all night....lpn's are not glorified techs the lpn's i work with don't report to an rn unless they need iv push med or some problem...they are autonomous!

    you are right when it comes to the lpn's salary it is very very low at the hospitals that's another reason that i decided not to pursue the lpn route. i want to work in mother/baby & l&d also and they are very weary about hiring lpn's. also the hospital would not pay for the lpn schooling as they would the rn program. the pay in fl sucks on a whole but after a little experience you will make the bucks also most people get their money in o/t if they offer it i will take as much as possible


    coco,
    it was rough going thru the day program bc it was like a full time job. i worked mainly on the weekends. they do have a part time night program too. i believe its from 4pm to 9pm. do u work in ob now? im thinking that since u have established yourself on the floor that they would hire you as an lpn. i noticed more lpns on the mother/baby floor than i did anywhere else in the hospital. everywhere else there might be one lpn if any, but over there i saw several. you have the upper hand since u already have your foot in the door there. one of my friends was offered a job there. i didnt have to pay for the lpn program bc i got their financial need based assistance based on my current income at the tme which was going to be part time. i didnt even have to pay for the state boards. it was such a blessing.

    the thing about it is, it may be faster to get your lpn and then bridge over to rn than it wll be to get into the generic nursing program with the waiting list. thats how it was for me and thats what a lot of folks are starting to do. plus u can work as an lpn while u take the bridge program. i work in peds home health and love it. its a great low stress environment if u are furthering your education. valencia just put the lpn to rn bridge online. im starting in january, ill let u know how it goes. i like it bc it allows u to work while u finish ur degree. only 1 clinical a week.

    do you know if they hire new grad rns at fl hospital or winnie palmer on mother baby or l&d? i would love to work in that area as well. but i may end up working in a more general area to get experience so it would be easier to work agency or travel later on. but i definitely want to work there at some point. i loved that clinical rotation in school, i was totally in my element!
  5. by   Cococure
    Quote from luv4nursing
    coco,
    do you know if they hire new grad rns at fl hospital or winnie palmer on mother baby or l&d? i would love to work in that area as well. but i may end up working in a more general area to get experience so it would be easier to work agency or travel later on. but i definitely want to work there at some point. i loved that clinical rotation in school, i was totally in my element!
    yes i know they are hiring new grads for the mb unit at both hospitals...when you do your clinicals you will get a better idea of which location is hiring...plus you have experience you are no longer a newbie per sey and you should get a hiring bonus ...but for l&d they might put you thru pcu first b4 l&d cuz its such a high stress enviornment...once you have your rn license you will get job offers for both units. i work on the mother/baby unit now and that's why i wanted to work there cuz once i finish school i will have a job waiting for me...no pcu/med surg for me...maybe i hope to work on the nicu eventually...i am finished with all my pre-reqs come this spring @ vcc and then i will apply for rn program and hopefully my grades and me bugging them will get me in...until then i will be working on my pre-reqs for the rn-bsn prorgam...i wanna go all the way to msn b4 i get married or have kids....as a tech i can get lots of o/t plus diff so i am ok

    happy holidays
    coco
    Last edit by Cococure on Dec 25, '06
  6. by   luv4nursing
    Quote from cococure
    yes i know they are hiring new grads for the mb unit at both hospitals...when you do your clinicals you will get a better idea of which location is hiring...plus you have experience you are no longer a newbie per sey and you should get a hiring bonus ...but for l&d they might put you thru pcu first b4 l&d cuz its such a high stress enviornment...once you have your rn license you will get job offers for both units. i work on the mother/baby unit now and that's why i wanted to work there cuz once i finish school i will have a job waiting for me...no pcu/med surg for me...maybe i hope to work on the nicu eventually...i am finished with all my pre-reqs come this spring @ vcc and then i will apply for rn program and hopefully my grades and me bugging them will get me in...until then i will be working on my pre-reqs for the rn-bsn prorgam...i wanna go all the way to msn b4 i get married or have kids....as a tech i can get lots of o/t plus diff so i am ok

    happy holidays
    coco


    thats great, coco! best of luck to you! they have rn to bsn at ucf and they also have one at st petersburg college im looking into thats online. cant beat an online bsn @ community college prices! i would love to get my msn as well, but ill at least get my bsn for now. if i was a little younger id go straight through, but i always wanted to start a family by 30 and time is ticking lol. maybe ill work on it on a part time basis. we will see what happens though! im definitely ready to be out of school bc it seems like ive been going forever already. before i went for nursing i was in school on and off for years...so im really getting burned out now. let me know if you ever hear of any m/b job openings for lpns where u work! id be all over that!

    ps...."bugging" the ppl in charge at valencia tends to actucally work! i think i emailed molly morrow a million times and i think i kind of grew on her and she must have felt sorry for me...and i know when it came time to go thru the applications my name had to ring a bell bc i had so many problems during the application process and she was the only contact person i knew so she was always who i went to about every issue. first, my gpa was a little shy of the minimum....and thru her i was able to get it reevaluated. then there were some pre reqs that werent even showing up as transferring in to valencia on my transcript. it seemed like it was one issue after another. plus i gave her my sob story about how hard ive worked to get thru lpn school and getting my pre reqs for the transition program finished....i was taking summer school at daytona beach community college (because they dont require biology as a pre req to microbiology and scc and vcc do...i didnt want to or have time to take an extra class), and driving there mon-thurs all summer long after working 12 and 16 hr night shifts, yada yada yada and basically how hearbroken i was going to be to have things go wrong now after all the sacrifices ive made lol. i have no idea how the selection process went bc there are ppl who got accepted who had really high gpas but not all the pre reqs (they said next year they wont take anyone who doesnt have them all, though), then there is me with a low gpa and all the pre reqs.....but they said they took net scores and lpn school transcripts into consideration and both of those were good so those were probably my saving grace.
    Last edit by luv4nursing on Dec 26, '06
  7. by   Cococure
    Good 4 U...persistence pays off!!
    Yeah I eventually want to start a fam. too not getting any younger either...also check out Orlando Regional Healthcare you will see from their site that they have LPN jobs for new grads on the mother/baby unit and keep calling the hr dept until someone calls you back...not sure what the pay rate will be but you are not a "newbie"... you might want to jump on it if you are interested cuz the spots fill quickly for mother/baby....
    UCF does have a rn-msn & rn-bsn program and you can do the pre-reqs at a comm. college and you are right can't beat CC prices at all....

    happy holidays
    cococ
  8. by   oingo
    Thank you all. You have answered all the questions I had about LPN to RN tract. I will work on my remaining prereqs for now and then enter an LPN program followed by the transition tract. Thanks again!
  9. by   luv4nursing
    Quote from oingo
    Thank you all. You have answered all the questions I had about LPN to RN tract. I will work on my remaining prereqs for now and then enter an LPN program followed by the transition tract. Thanks again!
    Im glad u got the answers u needed! Im a big advocate of becoming an LPN and bridging over. Its One of the best decisions I ever made and had I not went that route I probably wouldnt be where I am today (starting the bridge next week, and financially stable so money problems wont affect my schooling!). Take care and check in frequently!
  10. by   jayra77
    Hi Luv4nursing I read your post about taking the lpn course then taking the bridge to become an RN. I am veryinterested in pursuing my career as an R.N. I was going to go to Keiser College, but was told that besides it being very expensive, that if I did complete my courses with them , that I would have to continue with them for a BSN because I can not transfer any of their credits to another school. Anyway I do not have any pre requisites at all and was thinking of attending Valencia college for my R.N., but read your tread and figured maybe I could do it the way you did. I have a few questions if you don't mind?
    1. If I appy for Orlando Tech or SCC for the lpn program with finacial aid, will I also be eligible that year to take pre requisites at VCC? If not how should I go about this?
    2. I do not have any pre requisites which pre req do I need to become an R.N while I am taking my LPN program? Could you name the actual pre reqs that I will need? I am clueless and new to this!
    3.What are the day hours for the LPN program in orlando tech?
    4. How long is the LPN program when does it start?
    5. Can I take pre reqs on line at VCC?
    Please guide me through this I have no clue I am looking to do this , but at the same time I have children in school and was hoping the school lets out before the childrren do I also work nights. Thank you in advance!!!!!!!
  11. by   jayra77
    Another question. So, if I actually take the Lpn program does it mean that I have less pre requisites to take to get in the RN bridge program that I would if I was just going straight for my R.N. couse at VCC?

    2. If I did take my pre reques at Vcc how long could that take? I mean how many classes would I need?
    I hear that a lot of CC like to give students pre req classes they don't even end up needing. How will I know which ones are thhe right ones to take?
  12. by   paulinek34
    I go to orlando tech right now. the day hours are 8-230 and the evenings are 4-9. You can go to VCC's website and see what pre-req's are required. I know that A & P I and II, microbiology, humanities, eng 101, dev psycology are. I'm not sure what else. No, you still have to take all the courses, it's not included in the LPN program. You do take anatomy in orlando tech, but it doesn't count towards pre-req's. You don't need any pre-req's to get into orlando tech. feel free to write back.
  13. by   luv4nursing
    Quote from jayra77
    Another question. So, if I actually take the Lpn program does it mean that I have less pre requisites to take to get in the RN bridge program that I would if I was just going straight for my R.N. couse at VCC?

    2. If I did take my pre reques at Vcc how long could that take? I mean how many classes would I need?
    I hear that a lot of CC like to give students pre req classes they don't even end up needing. How will I know which ones are thhe right ones to take?
    The pre reqs are the same, but the program is shortened from 2 years (generic track) to 1 year (bridge program)


    Here is a link to the pre reqs at Valencia
    http://www.valenciacc.edu/department.../admission.cfm

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