Everest Nursing school issues

What is a 'Daytime TV College'?
What does it mean to 'push the lay person to RN in 10 shifts'?
Just wondering.

The poster above does have a point. There are a lot of colleges in the US that charge 40 grand a year.
After I posted about the demise of the Diploma Schools I got to thinking, I studied Nursing about the time of the change over from Diploma based education to college biased education for the Nursing profession.
Part of our 'brain washing' process in the University was to be taught that we were somehow 'better', or 'superior', to those Diploma grads.
I was clueless about the reality of the world of Nursing, so I believed this 'ego stroking'.
Until I got out and got to work and saw the difference between my knowledge, skills and abilities, and those of Nurses who had actually worked doing nursing work of every kind for three years while they were being educated. The diploma Nurses were just a different breed, they knew what they were doing, from the get-go, after graduation.
When we university grads hit the floor it was just common knowledge that we would have to undergo a long 'rehab' process if we were to be made into 'working' nurses.
The Diploma nurses used to complain about our performance level.
We University grads were taught to complain about the performance level of the Associate Degree Nurses.
I have since learned what nonsense this was. The Associate Grads are just like us University grads, some worthless, some OK, some really good. The difference MAY be that you cannot discuss esoteric issues with them, when you have a free moment.
I say MAY, because a lot of Nurses who went back and got an Associate Degree in Nursing have a degree, or even an advanced degree, in another, non marketable, skill.

Nursing has always been confused about what it is, a 'Profession', or a 'Trade'.
Now the 'established' Nursing schools are crying foul because they have been usurped by upstarts who are producing THEIR product, and making a nice tidy financial profit doing so.
Sounds like a lament for a Country and Western song to me.
Guess what. You guys stuck it to the Diploma Programs, and now these 'upstarts' are sticking it to you.

Could we get to the 'core' issue here. WHY is EVERYTHING related to health care in the US about MONEY?

I am a student at this school. Yes the school is expensive but every student attending made a choice to pay the money. The article was extremely biased. The quotes from students were taken out of context. The positive comments from current students never made the article. Most of the information came from students who are no longer in the program because they were unable to pass the classes or clinical. Part of nursing school is learning the skills required to become a competent nurse and unfortunately it does weed out the students who can't handle the stress and work load required.

As far as for our clinicals, we do have patients we are responsible for. We are responsible for knowing all labs, giving medication, new Dr orders just like other nursing programs. The birth of the baby from the mannequin was part of the hours required in the lab at school. We practice ALL procedures in the lab and must be able to perform them correctly before we can do the skills in the clinical setting. My rotation at the pediatric hospital was wonderful. I had hands on experience most of the time. Some parents did not want nursing students treating their child. As part of the community nursing rotation, we had to teach kindergarten students the importance of hand washing and the proper way to wash hands. Other students taught the importance of nutrition or exercise to other grade levels. This was two hours of our required 82 clinical hours.

I am also a student at this school, Mr. Weiri's comments and accusations about this school are not accurate. We are provided the same opportunities as any other nursing student. We are responsible for 2-3 patients each per clinical shift. And by responsible I mean fully responsible for all new orders, all medications, all "skills," and all care. Mr. Weiri's comments about his observational experience was regarding to the 2 days of observation in the OR during the entire pediatrics rotation, the remainder of which was spent on the floors doing patient care. Was he expecting them to hand him a scalpel and perform open heart surgery? Furthermore, it was the hospital's policy regarding nursing students that put limitations on our opportunities there; not our program or instructors.
With regard to the comments about teaching hand washing to school children... this was during our clinicals for Community_Based Nursing-Care. Community-Based nursing is heavily reliant on education and prevention. This class and clinical rotation also had us as maternity clinics, Community Health Departments, other community resources that provide care and education to their community. Furthermore, we have the advantage by having this class included in our program. Community-Based nursing is generally reserved for BSN programs. Many ADN programs have "community projects" not entire classes.
Yes, our program is an accelerated RN program, 21 months, which is just shy of 2 years (24 months). The article, however, fails to mention that we go year round, we do not have a summer break like many community colleges. There is your three month difference. We all knew that this was accelerated, we knew going in that it was going to be intense and rigorous. I don't understand how accelerated is a bad thing. What about the Universities that offer an accelerated 16-month program as a second bachelor's to those holding bachelor's in other fields? That is even shorter, and includes courses ancillary to the generic RN curriculum.
The articles comments about passing anyone who just pays the bills. Well, if this were true then we would have 34 people sitting in that class room when we start back next term. However, there are about 20. So, they let anyone through, yet 14 didn't pass to make it through? That is a little inaccurate. Also, is anyone so naive to think that ONLY 34 people applied to the program? The state board puts limits on how many students a school can have at a time. Hence, why many community college schools have less people in a class then, say a large university like USF.
You can ask just about any nurse, and they will tell you that you leave nursing school a novice. Becoming a nurse is on the job training. Most can vouch (at least the ones that I work with), that instructors can only teach you so much, you have to be dedicated enough to learn the rest on your own. That is simply the nature of not only nursing school but college in general (I have a previous degree from USF).
With regard to pass rates, it is a new school. There are always going to be things that need ironing out when you start something new, ask small business owners. The students from the first class are just as responsible for their pass/fail status. The instructors, again, can only teach you so much.

It's unfortunate that a school that is trying to build up its program is being sideswiped by a disgruntled student who didn't take responsibility for his own actions. All schools and programs have to start somewhere.

Yikes with this school. I have just about made up my mind to enroll in the Everest Patient Care Tech program. I already know this school is overpriced with something of a dubious reputation but after considering all options I've decided this is the most feasible. And then I read something like this and I wonder if the RN program is so flawed, how whacked is the Patient Tech program going to be? I could be on the verge of going another thousands of dollars into debt only to come out at the other end not knowing squat.

I wouldn't pay that much money when you can get your CNA and be a PCT at most hospitals. And even that is less than $500.

You're absolutely right but CNA courses don't offer EKG and Phleb training as part of the package and although I'm told hospitals offer this training anyway once you're hired it's my personal preference to already be familiar with these skills going in the door. I realize Everest is overpriced and I've been burned by tech schools in the past, but this is something I decided to do only after thinking about it long and hard.

Brewster (tampa) offers PCT for $1400.00 (i think).

Two folks sound like admissions officers for Everest.
off topic but related
I was in the library one day. I was using the computer. A student who was in the accelerated RN program @ a private nursing school. She sat next to me. She had no clue how to a journal search or write a paper. I was sitting there like OMG! The librarian was nice and showed her how to research a journal topic. My thoughts she paid all this private ed money and dont know how to do research for the journal topic or write the paper. Hmm.

Everyone has a choice. I understand why some go for private vs public. I'll take the public road all the time. I see too many if and ands with private ed.. Everyone has their own desire to learn.. they are good and bad in each school.

just my two cents, not putting anyone's post down,

to me, $40K for an associate's degree from an unaccredited school is way too expensive.
I personally would wait on the waiting list at a public school, and work as a nursing assistant meanwhile.

Actually the PCT program at Everest isn't $1400.00. Its $14,000.00.

what??!?!?!? $14k for PCT???????
that's crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!