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Dec 09, 2008, 10:48 PM
 Re: RN to Paramedic Bridge Course Originally Posted by ARKYLE  I just graduated with my RN waiting to take boards. I was a former LPN and EMT. Anyone know of a RN-Paramedic program in Ohio? I feel I am qualified for advanced placement with my experience. Thanks in advance. Good luck all. 
I am unaware of any programs that offer advanced placement.
I believe Florida will allow an RN with a a current EMT and ACLS to seek licensure -- From the DOH --> "A Florida licensed physician, dentist, or registered nurse may apply for certification as a paramedic and subsequently challenge the paramedic exam, provided he/she holds a Florida EMT certificate which is current and in good standing."
You are required to submit a copy of your current Florida license or registration. Once a Florida Paramedic you can take the National Exam. There is a practical for the National so anyone seeking certification will have to prove practical...you will have to prove you can practice at an advanced level.
Paramedic is a different discipline...as different as LPN is to RN. I have encountered RNs that for some reason feel that RN = Paramedic. Certification as a Paramedic is not about levels of education. One is either trained or untrained. RN does not qualify as a Paramedic...neither does EMT or LPN...The same holds true for Paramedic does not = RN... JD does not equal MD. This is not just my opinon, it is a matter of fact. Research rules and regs under DOT - DOH Paramedic certifcation and you will find the same answer in each state...except for Florida...that is...if you want to be a Paramedic then you must train to be a Paramedic.
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Dec 17, 2008, 09:43 AM
Re: RN to Paramedic Bridge Course
Now at a local community college I contacted in my state of Ohio they do offer advance placement for RN's. The director of the program informed me not only do you have to be a current RN but that having your EMT-B is a prerequisite to the program (Columbus State Community College).
I understand the role differences are huge and in no way expected to just be able to sit for the National Registry without any formal training. Paramedics and RNs are night and day when it comes to scope of practices prehospitally and in a formal hospital setting. By obtaining a medic license I think it would just make an RN more marketable for ground or air transport career down the road.
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Jan 07, 2009, 11:51 AM
Re: RN to Paramedic Bridge Course
In regards to the first post, the initial reason this post began...I am an RN with 4 years experience in the ED. Roughly two years ago I did take the Creighton RN to EMT-P bridge course. I loved it!! They require ACLS, PALS, TNCC and EMT-B prior to acceptance. It last 2 weeks and was very intense. We did class during the day and ride alongs during the evening with Omaha. In the end I belive I ended up paying $5,000 for tuition, books, airfare, room and board at a local hotel. Let me know if you have any questions....
Good Luck! http://www2.creighton.edu/ems/ | | No. 103 |
Jan 07, 2009, 01:28 PM
Re: RN to Paramedic Bridge Course
Wow. 2 weeks of training from RN to paramedic. I wonder if that includes working lunches. Sure glad they require that TNCC course which has nothing to do with field prehospital medicine. But then again, neither does nursing. I wonder if there is a 2 week program paramedics can take to become an RN if they have a CNA ticket since its all the same anyway. Anything to make a buck I guess.
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Jan 27, 2009, 07:59 PM
Re: RN to Paramedic Bridge Course Originally Posted by Tammy79, RN Wow. 2 weeks of training from RN to paramedic. I wonder if that includes working lunches. Sure glad they require that TNCC course which has nothing to do with field prehospital medicine. But then again, neither does nursing. I wonder if there is a 2 week program paramedics can take to become an RN if they have a CNA ticket since its all the same anyway. Anything to make a buck I guess. Distance Education Rocks - Work Smart - Not Hard.  ADN, Regents College, Distance Ed - Class of 1994 BSN, Indiana State University, Distance Ed - Class of 2007 MSN-FNP, Univ. of Southern Indiana, Distance Ed - Class of 2009
I have heard the same thing about about distance learning programs. I personally disagree, but I have heard nurses deride those who recieved their degree online, or in a distance learning program. Since I have never really looked at the curriculuum or requirements, I am more inclined to judge somebody on their knowledge and abilities.
Given your training, you may have encountered this prejudice.
hherrn
| | No. 105 |
Jan 27, 2009, 08:49 PM
Re: RN to Paramedic Bridge Course
Slight difference in taking a two week course versus a several month or longer distance learning course?
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Jan 27, 2009, 10:51 PM
Re: RN to Paramedic Bridge Course
Huge difference.- I have nothing against distance learning, or anyone who takes distance learning course. Be silly if I did, since I did some of my prereqs on line, tested out of others.
Some similarities, in that both: - Are an alternate aproach
- Are accredited
- Result in the opportunity to test for a license
- Are usually spoken well of by people who have participated in them
- Are sometimes considered inferior, or an unfair shortcut, by people who have not participated in them
I have heard distance learning for nursing derided. I personally disagree, and am more inclined to judge on performance, rather than how somebody got got their degree.
I am not really familiar with Creighton's course. AFAIK, in addition to the two weeks, they require EMT, various certifications, and two years criical/ER experience. Then, the graduate has to pass the same test as any other medic. At that point, the person is an entry level paramedic.
Does this program actually turn out less competent medics than other programs? It's been a while since I read this whole thread, but I don't recall anybody having having any bad experiences with graduates of this program. At least not at a higher rate than any other program.
hhern
I am intersted in this thread because I have considered this course. My experience includes: - 5 years ER/critical care experience (more by the time I would take it)
- TNCC
- CCRN
- ACLS
- PALS
- 10 years ski patrol at a high volume mountain
- EMT- cerified for 20 years, several years active vollunteer and paid
- Outdoor Emergency Care- instructor
- Wilderness First Responder- former instructor
- Swiftwater rescue- instructor
- Rock climbing instructor with a bit of technical rescue training.
I have a lot of experience assesing and packaging pt's in challenging environments.
I feel like this course might be a good option for me. I feel that if I was to graduate from this course, my competency would compare well to other entry level paramedics.
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Feb 01, 2009, 01:05 AM
Re: RN to Paramedic Bridge Course
Hey hherrn,
I took this course in october 07' And I actually had someone from ski patrol in my class. I thought it was a very well run course, they built on what we already knew. It was very intense, a full 2 weeks from 9am- 11pm every day and 7a-11p on the weekend, also 2 OR days that started at 6am. Most of the other RN's had worked the road for an amount of time before taking the class, and we were all there for our own reasons, but all of us it was to further our knowledge in our careers. As someone else said it is pretty expensive, but I found well worth it. I took the NREMT-P and passed first time, they did a very good job. I hope this helps  | | No. 108 |
Feb 01, 2009, 10:24 PM
Re: RN to Paramedic Bridge Course Originally Posted by hherrn Distance Education Rocks - Work Smart - Not Hard. ADN, Regents College, Distance Ed - Class of 1994 BSN, Indiana State University, Distance Ed - Class of 2007 MSN-FNP, Univ. of Southern Indiana, Distance Ed - Class of 2009
I have heard the same thing about about distance learning programs. I personally disagree, but I have heard nurses deride those who recieved their degree online, or in a distance learning program. Since I have never really looked at the curriculuum or requirements, I am more inclined to judge somebody on their knowledge and abilities.
Given your training, you may have encountered this prejudice.
hherrn
I'm not sure I understand your point. Are you comparing differences in values and oppinions between traditional education and distance education in the form of nursing education to differences between legitimate prehospital care paramedic training programs to a program that churns RN's into paramedics in a few days? If so, to suggest you are comparing apples to oranges would be kind.
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Feb 03, 2009, 01:34 PM
Re: RN to Paramedic Bridge Course Originally Posted by Tammy79, RN I'm not sure I understand your point. Are you comparing differences in values and oppinions between traditional education and distance education in the form of nursing education to differences between legitimate prehospital care paramedic training programs to a program that churns RN's into paramedics in a few days? If so, to suggest you are comparing apples to oranges would be kind. Apples are a crunchy fruit, with an edible skin, grown primarily in cooler climates. Oranges are a juicy fruit, with an inedible skin, grown primarily in warmer climates. Although different, they both fit into the category of fruit, and have a number of similarities. I have no problem comparing them.
My point in the other comparison was not that the two endeavors are identical. They are as different as apples and oranges. They also have some similarities in that both have detractors. And, in both cases people who have participated in the programs have had positive things to say.
I do know that distance learning has had some pretty good results. I have personally benefitted from distance learning. What I don't know is whether or not Creighton, or any similar program, is in fact, churning out unqualified, incompetent medics.
I think I have read all the posts in this long thread, and don't recall any personal negative experiences.
hherrn
FWIW, The National Association of EMS Educators seems to think the director of this program does a good job- they gave him an award.
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