Yet Another Pre-Employment Drug Screen Thread

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I apologize for contributing to the seemingly endless amount of threads that focus on drug test concerns. I would have voiced my concerns elsewhere if I knew it would not be lost in the vast sea of "I took a ----- & I have to pee in a cup tomorrow. What do I do?"I graduated nursing school in May, passed the NCLEX in June, & had an interview for a Pediatric RN position this past Monday. The day of my interview, things were perfectly normal, despite my nervousness about making a good first impression. I woke up, took my medicine, & started getting ready for the big day. Singing songs by Alanis Morissette at the top of my lungs proved to be a great distraction on my way to the hospital...

I arrived on the unit 30 minutes early (which was way too early, considering the department director showed up 15 minutes late). By the time the interviewer arrived, I had made friends with the RNs & already made myself at home in the nurses station...

While walking to his office, I quickly prepared myself mentally for the typical nursing interview questions. My nerves were surprisingly subtle to be interviewing for my dream job. I knew I was prepared so I put on my biggest smile, turned up the confidence, & rocked it...

The unit director offered me the job (aka my dream job). I am not an idiot, so I happily accepted his offer. Next, we discussed position details, orientation, protocol, blah blah blah. And out of nowhere... SLAP! I am unexpectedly & very rudely thrown out of my dream job induced bliss. Did he just say what I think he said?

I am paralyzed with fear as the realization sinks in. "Would you be willing to perform the drug screen today?" I am sure we all know what the appropriate response to this question should be. Everyone has the right to refuse a drug test. The only problem with saying "no" is that the employer withdraws their job offer almost 100% of the time. Like I said, I'm not an idiot, so of course I agreed to take the drug screen...

Except I am sort of an idiot... A huge, monumental, gigantic idiot.

Rewind to 5:30 AM when I am on the verge of throwing my alarm clock across the room (mornings & I are sworn enemies; my soul is with night shift). After stretching & mumbling angry unintelligible words for longer than is necessary, what is my first action? Something that is so completely routine that it has become an impulse rather than a choice? It's beyond the term "habitual." It has become natural. Routine: Abruptly awake from my dreamy dream job dream, get furious at the alarm, contemplate a method to destroy the source of the noise, press snooze & try to catch up where my dream left off (it's useless), whine/moan/complain, force myself out of bed, take my Adderall. PAUSE! And there it is, the source of all my problems. This tiny little detail that is so well reheorificed, it's completely forgettable. The interviewer keeps talking & I have no idea what he is saying because I am literally sick. I can barely breathe past the lump in my throat. My heart fell to my feet & the butterflies in my belly turned to razor blades. Kenny Chesney's song, "There Goes My Life," set the perfect stage for a murder/suicide of all my dream job opportunities.

I arrived at the Occupational Health Center & it wasn't long until I was handing over a cup of my urine to some stranger. Potentially handing over the single thing that could demolish my every hope of having a career with that facility. There was nothing I could do about it except cringe & self-loathe as I watch it being sealed & transferred. The specimen collecting technician never asked about or instructed me to write down a list of my current prescription(s) and/or over-the-counter medication. Of course, it would not have mattered anyway because I did not have the proper paperwork to prove that I most certainly did NOT meet a dealer down a discrete dark alley for an illegal exchange. I initialed the tubes of my demise & made a B-line for a more secure area that allows anxiety/panic attacks to unravel (which, in this case, was my car)...

I had prepared myself for interview questions, answers, & a tour of the unit... but the possibility that I MAY be sent for a drug screen the very same day never even crossed my mind at all. Frankly, neither did the fact that I would be offered the job even before the interview was complete. I couldn't shake the feeling of impending doom. I still can't shake it off. I guess I should have known that everything was too good to be true.

So here I am now... It's Wednesday, 2 days after the best/worst day of my life. Obviously the results of the 10 panel drug test are not in yet because I was called in by HR yesterday to consent for a background check & to validate my RN license... just to make sure that I am not a crazy psycho going around claiming to be a nurse. It's clear that I am a tad bit concerned & want nothing more than to have this issue magically resolved. However, I refuse to make the mistake of confiding in Human Resources or my supervisor about my issue. What I am prescribed is between me & my physician & is considered private medical records. Plus, I would not want my employer to judge or think any less of me based on what I am prescribed. Above all, I would not want to risk withdrawal of an amazing job offer.

Apparently the old-fashioned "Make a list of all the prescription medications you are taking" is ancient history. No more hauling Ziplock bags of medicine around to prove your legitimate innocence, letting random people invade your privacy, or testing your legal rights. Instead, the techs collecting specimens are no longer allowed to discuss medications with the urine donor, just as we are not required to release our private information to the techs. This method greatly reduces the amount of HIPAA violations, invasions of privacy, & the hassle of formal proof of prescriptions. If the drug screen results in a positive (fail), a Medical Review Officer (MRO) contacts the donor to alert them of the test results & to inquire about any prescribed medications. When all the correct information is gathered & approved (Dr. Name, proof of prescription, name of the pharmacy, etc.), the MRO will declare the drug screen results as negative (pass) & HR will be notified.

I understand why the process has changed & I personally approve of the new drug screen regimen but this can't-eat-can't-sleep-gut-wrenching-gag-reflex-what-is-taking-so-long-feeling has GOT to stop. My main concern is that I fail the drug screen (testing positive for amphetamine [Adderall]) & the MRO alerts HR of a fail without even contacting me. This possibility keeps playing over & over in my mind. The suspense is killing me!

Well, this leaves us with 1 more thread to add to the enormous amount of drug testing threads on allnurses. I had to vent somewhere to people who know exactly what I am going through. ...or else I would lose my sanity. I know it has only been 2 days since the test, but It feels like 2 million years. Hey, I never claimed to have patience as a virtue! Feel free to leave thoughts, opinions, or messages of encouragement. Scolding me is pointless because what's done is done & there is no going back. Plus, I am FULLY aware that I made a mistake. It slipped my mind to skip my meds for a few days to ensure that I would most definitely clear the drug test. I have my legitimate prescription handy for a long-awaited call from the MRO. All I can do is pray they do their job by contacting me before my employer.

I enjoyed your post, too! I am actually on my way to take a drug test for school (going for my BSN) so it was interesting to read about someone else's experience!

I agree that you shouldn't be worried. Hope you hear from HR soon!

Thank you! I am glad you enjoyed it. Good luck with your BSN!

Great post and you should be fine. There's a local health group that is doing nicotine screening on all new employees starting next year. I don't know if that would affect getting hired or not, but they're a tobacco-free campus and want to start with their employees.

It's a good thing I don't smoke! :smokin: Thanks for the heads up. People need to spread the word!

To the person who started this thread I would completely ignore people who say things like this, you should post as much or little as you want it is your story and you are not forcing anyone to read it. I can't believe how rude some people are, it's amazing.

This was my first post on AN so I'm not very aware of what the members want/don't want to read. Naturally, I poured my heart out. The longer the post got and the more details I got out, the better it made me feel. Better to have too many facts than too little, eh? :yes:

**UPDATE**

THE HOSPITAL FORMALLY MADE ME AN OFFER! ...in which I gratefully accepted, obviously.

Here's the thing, I never received a call from a MRO. This can mean one of two things: 1. I tested negative for all the drugs screened or 2. I tested positive and a call will soon be made. BUT it's been almost 2 weeks since the day of the drug screen. Does a call from a MRO usually take this long? Seeing as I was given a formal job offer, I would think that everything came back clear.

Thank you to each and every one of you who commented. Whether you told me to relax, gave me information, or told me that my post was far too long/detailed, I found relief in your words. You all definitely decreased my anxiety level! I was going insane and I needed advice, which was abundantly provided.

I start orientation at my new job Monday. It's surreal. Always dreaming of becoming a nurse, going through hell and back with nursing school, and then finally getting your dream job... All the blood, sweat, and tears have finally paid off! Now it's time to start doing what nursing is all about. Helping others! :snurse:

Specializes in NICU.

Congratulations! Im really happy for you. And to the person who just ripped me apart at the start of this page...settle down. I apologized for my rudeness...everyone has bad days. Good luck with the new job and I wish you the best!

Thank you for the kind words! :nurse:

Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.

Great news! :w00t:

**UPDATE**

THE HOSPITAL FORMALLY MADE ME AN OFFER! ...in which I gratefully accepted, obviously.

Here's the thing, I never received a call from a MRO. This can mean one of two things: 1. I tested negative for all the drugs screened or 2. I tested positive and a call will soon be made. BUT it's been almost 2 weeks since the day of the drug screen. Does a call from a MRO usually take this long? Seeing as I was given a formal job offer, I would think that everything came back clear.

Thank you to each and every one of you who commented. Whether you told me to relax, gave me information, or told me that my post was far too long/detailed, I found relief in your words. You all definitely decreased my anxiety level! I was going insane and I needed advice, which was abundantly provided.

I start orientation at my new job Monday. It's surreal. Always dreaming of becoming a nurse, going through hell and back with nursing school, and then finally getting your dream job... All the blood, sweat, and tears have finally paid off! Now it's time to start doing what nursing is all about. Helping others! :snurse:

I didn't keep reading when I posted my last post, CONGRATS on the job, I'm so glad you got it! I'm also glad you shared your story with us and I enjoyed reading it because a lot of us have been in a similar situation! Best of luck to you :)

Specializes in Emergency Nursing.

I also liked your detail and the way you write is actually very engaging. What I came away with, besides the points of your dilemma, is that you seem like a fun person I would enjoy working with. As for the issue itself, again, if you have a prescription, I wouldn't worry. A lot of the nurses I know are medicated with prescription BZ's, a little methylphenidate seems like not a problem...I mean, you're not a meth-head.

Specializes in Cath Lab & Interventional Radiology.

Congrats! I hope that you enjoy your new job!!

It is legal for an employer to ask for a list of your meds but only after a conditional offer of employment has been made.

The drug screening company can actually disclose what legal meds you are on, even if you produce a valid prescription. Employers are not required to allow drug use even if it is legally prescribed and can test for these as well as illegal drug use.

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Not true...depends on the drug, depends on what it is for.

No, they cannot ask you for a drug list for "anything" you are not, formal employment offer or not. That is a violation of HIPAA. You can bet your bottom dollar that if I was taking medication for herpes or HIV meds, it's none of my employer's business.

Some exceptions depend on what you are on and to keep an employer from being in violation of American's with Disabilities Act (which also covers short-term treatment), you have the LEGAL RIGHT TO BE TREATED AND ALLOWED TO WORK.

For example, it is not appropriate for you to be on a ton of Loritabs and working. No matter how much pain you are in even if you are taking the meds in accordance with your prescription. That isn't safe for you or your patients.

However, I can assure you that the medication list is limited to what can IMPAIR YOU while working and no other medication list is legal to ask for.

Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.
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Not true...depends on the drug, depends on what it is for.

No, they cannot ask you for a drug list for "anything" you are not, formal employment offer or not. That is a violation of HIPAA. You can bet your bottom dollar that if I was taking medication for herpes or HIV meds, it's none of my employer's business.

Some exceptions depend on what you are on and to keep an employer from being in violation of American's with Disabilities Act (which also covers short-term treatment), you have the LEGAL RIGHT TO BE TREATED AND ALLOWED TO WORK.

For example, it is not appropriate for you to be on a ton of Loritabs and working. No matter how much pain you are in even if you are taking the meds in accordance with your prescription. That isn't safe for you or your patients.

However, I can assure you that the medication list is limited to what can IMPAIR YOU while working and no other medication list is legal to ask for.

As a disabled nurse......who got promptly dumped by her employer......it depends on your state. Mostly because you need to be physically fit for the position. Did you know that There are states that actually have mandated reporting for Licensed personnel if they deal with the public that request psychiatric/detox services? That you are mandated to report them and they are placed in monitoring programs immediately? SO much for helping.

They are in their legal right to ask to "protect" the public.....you would be very surprised what the ADA allows and how hard it is to be actually protected by this act in the probate sector.

Just like the handicapped sign doesn't mean that it is handicapped accessible......have you ever tried to use a wheelchair at 7-11 or a clothes store at the mall with your teenager? or need a handicap access van spot and there are only two of them for the 200 spots at the grocery store because it is all they are required to do.

Hospitals have very expensive lawyers that are very good at skirting the law.

That is the brutal truth.

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