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Why are new nurses treated poorly? - page 5

I am a new RN. I am also a 46 year old man. I graduated in May, passed NCLEX and started work in July. I started in a new nurse bridge program that was basic but nice and informative. I worked in... Read More

  1. Visit  Anoetos profile page
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    What is the best way to deal with it?

    Directly or just ignore it?
  2. Visit  That Guy profile page
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    Quote from squatmunkie_RN
    This person sounds just like those 1/3rd of nurses you're talking about. Sad he/she doesn't even seem to realize it. You shouldn't have to take it just because you're 46 and should be use to it by now.
    Yup. You nailed it. I hate all new nurses and expect everyone to be 20 year vets and ask the right questions and give the best report. Please. You dont know anything about me. If Vida ever came on here again she could testify to how I am in real life, might kinda shock you.
  3. Visit  wooh profile page
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    For the same reason new firefighters and new police officers and new waste management specialists and new attorneys and new Wal-Mart workers and new EVERYONE isn't immediately welcomed into their new jobs with hugs and gifts and parties.
    Strangely, nobody in those jobs whines about it like new nurses.
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  4. Visit  Aurora77 profile page
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    Did the nurse belittle you for not knowing which type of valve or did you feel defensive and stupid for not knowing? There is a big difference.

    At your age, OP, I'm sure you've encountered mean people or bullies before. What did you do then?
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  5. Visit  BostonTerrierLoverRN profile page
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    Ok, everybody, I have chocolate and cigarettes.

    Break time

    I think Obama would handle this with an outdoor beer, but then again, would you want to drink a beer with her and Obama? (Ah, the ignore it and move-on advice would sound better to me- that would be a bit intimidating for me- plus, I hate beer.
    (But it worked for those guys)
    Last edit by BostonTerrierLoverRN on Nov 22, '12
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  6. Visit  anotherone profile page
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    like i said earlier. i think some of this "mean to me" is defensiveness. especially when someone doesnt ask a question with smiles and giggles.
  7. Visit  Ruby Vee profile page
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    Quote from AtivanIM
    Ruby,I never questioned the fact that the information about a valve is important. If it wasn't noted in an otherwise comprehensive report, and remembered on demand, then the oncoming nurse can go and find out the information for themselves. In a prior comment you mentioned to let the "rudeness roll of your back." I don't think putting up with rudeness and lateral violence under the cloak of -maybe they are trying to help you by tearing apart your self esteem- idea is a great one. You seem to have the same theme for new nurses who ask these types of questions: -take the harrassment or get out of the profession-
    You're missing the point. The new guy didn't realize the importance of knowing whether the valve was tissue or mechanical. From the tone of his original post, he still doesn't. That nurse whom he was so sure was just picking on him was trying to have a teaching moment. That's her job as an experienced nurse to help educate the new guys. Not eveeryone is a great teacher, but you can still learn from them. So many of you newer folks are missing a lot of teaching moments because you either don't like the teacher, think you already know it all, or don't like the delivery of the message. Get over yourselves. You do both yourselves and your future patients a disservice when you whine about lateral violence rather than learn what's trying to be taught.
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  8. Visit  sistasoul profile page
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    Though there may have been teaching going on the tone of the OP message was one of the nurse being condescending. Whether that is true or not is hard to ascertain from not being privy to the interactions. It is all in the perception of the message. There is the golden rule of being kind to one another that is being ignored. Treat one another as you would like to be treated and all will be well. No need of belittleling a new nurse regardless of age who is probably trying their best to survive their first year. I work on a med-surge floor and it is very difficult to know everything going on in your patient's history. Especially the first day you are on. The only people I know that can actually sit down and read charts are on the third shift but that is not always the case.

    Happy Thanksgiving.

    To peace.
    Sista
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  9. Visit  LuckyShe331 profile page
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    Thank you for posting these Brain Sheets, they are excellent. I am always grateful to experienced RN's who willingly share and help educate the students and new RN grads coming into the field. Your kindness and knowledge are so appreciated.
  10. Visit  dudette10 profile page
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    You really have to learn to separate "teaching moments" from outright cattiness/meanness/rudeness/gossip. Her delivery could have been much better than it was, but it was still a teaching moment.

    Instead of "Don't you think that's important to know?" she could have said, "That's important to know because..." She didn't though. Shrug off the delivery and learn from it.

    When I was an orientee, a nursing school friend who was off orientation was handing off to me and my preceptor. My friend had made an minor error in nursing judgment, and my preceptor's delivery was much like the one you described. Of course, my friend talked about it to me later, and this was the exact advice I gave her. It's really the only way to continue to move forward.
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  11. Visit  RN2BKT profile page
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    Quote from BostonTerrierLoverRN
    Ok, everybody, I have chocolate and cigarettes.
    Break time
    (But it worked for those guys)
    Yeah, I don't drink myself, but I'll take the chocolate.

    Hope you have a Happy Thanksgiving, and to everyone as well.
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  12. Visit  AtivanIM profile page
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    Quote from Ruby Vee
    You're missing the point. The new guy didn't realize the importance of knowing whether the valve was tissue or mechanical. From the tone of his original post, he still doesn't. That nurse whom he was so sure was just picking on him was trying to have a teaching moment. That's her job as an experienced nurse to help educate the new guys. Not eveeryone is a great teacher, but you can still learn from them. So many of you newer folks are missing a lot of teaching moments because you either don't like the teacher, think you already know it all, or don't like the delivery of the message. Get over yourselves. You do both yourselves and your future patients a disservice when you whine about lateral violence rather than learn what's trying to be taught.
    We must agree to disagree then. I don't think I'm whining about lateral violence at all! If I remember a prior post of yours, the title was something to the effect of - why does everyone think they are a good nurse?- Maybe she is not a good nurse and is trying to teach the OP nothing.

    I've seen a new grad cornered into a storage room by a veteren nurse for putting O2 on her patient when she answered her call bell for the patient. It was standing orders on the unit that if the O2 goes below a certain % to apply oxygen. Of course there could have been another reason blah blah, but she was doing right by the patient by not letting them struggle to breathe until the other nurse came into the room. Apparently that nurse tore her a new one and the newbie was hysterical. Was that a great teaching moment?
    Some people are just nasty, nurses included, and I don't think anyone should have to tolerate it.
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  13. Visit  LuckyShe331 profile page
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    AtivanIM, I love your response.

    While I do agree "to a point" that all moments can be teaching moments, unfortunately, some of the teaching moments are an example of how to NOT handle a situation. I don't think seniority gives anyone the right to be deliberately mean, cruel, and rude. Why in the world would you go into this profession if you did not have a inordinate amount of patience and understanding? If anyone should "get over themselves" it is the nurses who are "eating their young." No excuse for this period! Frankly, I think some people are just burnt out and lashing out because they know they can get away with it. There doesn't seem to be any repercussions for their behavior and bad attitudes.
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