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nursel56

7,078 Posts

Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.

Thank you both for responding. I didn't intend for my post to be insulting and I hope you didn't take it that way. I checked classified ads in school just to check out who was offering the best cruise, and it really was (and is) part of the cultural DNA to assume it will always be a seller's market with respect to nursing.

It does seem as if the number of new grads seeking employment rose as a gradual upward trend and then shot up very quickly around the first of the year.

whodatnurse

444 Posts

Specializes in Psych.
Thank you both for responding. I didn't intend for my post to be insulting and I hope you didn't take it that way. I checked classified ads in school just to check out who was offering the best cruise, and it really was (and is) part of the cultural DNA to assume it will always be a seller's market with respect to nursing.

It does seem as if the number of new grads seeking employment rose as a gradual upward trend and then shot up very quickly around the first of the year.

You're very welcome.

I did stop and think for a minute before deciding whether or not to respond to your previous post. (I don't waste my time on any that are clearly nothing more than bait for a back-and-forth that will ultimately end up nowhere.) I picked up an inkling of 'genuinely seeks understanding' so I did.

I appreciate you sharing the frame of reference for that post and your open-mindedness to the possibility of tweaking it in consideration of new information that is QUITE different from the old. (Cruises? Only in my wildest dreams! At this point, I would even be willing to do without ANY benefits. All I want is a steady paycheck that's enough to pay the mortgage and monthly fees on my condo, gas and electric utility bills, gas and insurance for my car, and food for myself and a pair of felines. I hope, I hope, I hope that's not too much too want in the America of 2010. I'm starting to fear that it is.)

CrunchRN, ADN, RN

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Specializes in Clinical Research, Outpt Women's Health.

I think it is horrid that the schools are still packing them in and so many have no idea how dismal the new grad job market is. And no one can predict when it will change.

Take heart all you new grads. It is really rough. Hopefully things will change sooner rather than later.

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nursel56

7,078 Posts

Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.
. . . . (Cruises? Only in my wildest dreams! At this point, I would even be willing to do without ANY benefits. All I want is a steady paycheck that's enough to pay the mortgage and monthly fees on my condo, gas and electric utility bills, gas and insurance for my car, and food for myself and a pair of felines. I hope, I hope, I hope that's not too much too want in the America of 2010. I'm starting to fear that it is.)

Throughtout most of the 70s and 80s in my city it was common to offer all sorts of lures for new grads, which is probably why so many new programs were developed and nursing got the reputatiion as basically an instant job. I left for a while and had to return to work in 2004 (luckily I had kept my license on inactive so it wasn't hard to re-activate (30CEUs in CA). I was in Colorado at the time and expected a welcome back parade and got more of a "so what?" response. I think if I had more recent acute care experience a large med school affiliated cancer hospital would have hired me-- I was past the 2nd interview and got nixed by someone higher up. It was disappointing. Now, though I don't think I would have stood a chance.

Someone (can't remember who or where) brought up the idea of new grads marching on Washington and setting up a "camp" like the Bonus Army of the 30s to bring attention to their plight. It's kind of a funny mental image!!;)

whodatnurse

444 Posts

Specializes in Psych.
Throughtout most of the 70s and 80s in my city it was common to offer all sorts of lures for new grads, which is probably why so many new programs were developed and nursing got the reputatiion as basically an instant job. I left for a while and had to return to work in 2004 (luckily I had kept my license on inactive so it wasn't hard to re-activate (30CEUs in CA). I was in Colorado at the time and expected a welcome back parade and got more of a "so what?" response. I think if I had more recent acute care experience a large med school affiliated cancer hospital would have hired me-- I was past the 2nd interview and got nixed by someone higher up. It was disappointing. Now, though I don't think I would have stood a chance.

Someone (can't remember who or where) brought up the idea of new grads marching on Washington and setting up a "camp" like the Bonus Army of the 30s to bring attention to their plight. It's kind of a funny mental image!!;)

There is an upcoming march on Washington scheduled for October 2. I'm just learning about it. They trying to rally ALL of America's unemployed. It seems to be backed by the NAACP, and is being endorsed by the AFL-CIO. I also remember seeing somewhere that a large union representing health care workers (including RNs) of the Northeast has endorsed it too.

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whodatnurse

444 Posts

Specializes in Psych.
There is an upcoming march on Washington scheduled for October 2. I'm just learning about it. They trying to rally ALL of America's unemployed. It seems to be backed by the NAACP, and is being endorsed by the AFL-CIO. I also remember seeing somewhere that a large union representing health care workers (including RNs) of the Northeast has endorsed it too.

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This is the health care workers union I was referring to:

1199SEIU

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nursel56

7,078 Posts

Specializes in Peds/outpatient FP,derm,allergy/private duty.
There is an upcoming march on Washington scheduled for October 2. I'm just learning about it. They trying to rally ALL of America's unemployed. It seems to be backed by the NAACP, and is being endorsed by the AFL-CIO. I also remember seeing somewhere that a large union representing health care workers (including RNs) of the Northeast has endorsed it too.

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Thanks for the link. I did a Google News search and nothing came up- I will help spread the word :up: I'm only sorry it couldn't be on 8/28 because of that other guy who plans to be in DC on the anniversary of the '63 march. :-/

milobust

32 Posts

Your post is absolutely permeated with judgmental undertones and overtones. The nursing profession is in need of nonjudgmental people. Please don't judge until you have walked one mile in the OP's shoes.

First, with regards to the undertones and overtones: I'm not sure how much clearer I can make my opinion. Second, I have gone a lot longer than the OP without getting even an interview so I know where they are coming from. Third, I guess in your opinion it's okay to tell others to avoid going into nursing because they didn't get their first or second jobs attempts but someone defending nursing is the "bad guy". I enjoyed this site for all the diverse opinions but when people log on to tell nurses to give up on becoming a nurse then I will speak up. If you're okay with this type of person caring for you then maybe on day you'll get a nurse who hates their job. Good Luck.

onehow

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Any word on getting a job in Psych?

I am graduating in a year.

I heard that there is a great need for Psych nurses and that being a male gives you an edge.

I am in NYC, but would like to relocate to Southern CA.

I would greatly appreciate any information or advice.

Thanks!

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