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Wow, what a monumental mistake I have made. I threw away a decent job to go back to school. I went back and got by BS in nursing. Now I am a licensed RN BSN with no future. When I went back to school... Read More

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    Nobody lied about a nursing shortage, it's just not as acute in some areas as it was. Look at where travel nurses are getting assignments, that is where the jobs are.

    The over saturation of nurses in some areas will get better as the economy recovers. The economy was taking a dive wasn't a sudden and shocking event, it was apparent 3+ years ago- plenty of time to NOT pursue a nursing degree.
    Anyone who thought that nursing was recession proof was very short sighted. It's only logical that high unemployment in non-healthcare jobs is going to directly impact nursing jobs.

    Nurses are typically women.
    At my hospital I'd wager that by far the largest majority of our part timers were married women with kids who only had to work part time due to their husband's stable job with benefits.
    Guess what happened when the primary bread winner got laid off-
    the part timers went full time to support their families and provide insurance. Those who couldn't find a full time slot that worked for them went part time plus per diem, most of our float pool is working full time. We're not calling any agency, they is no need, every open shift is being filled from within.

    Lots of 'retired' nurses came back to work for the same reason, their new careers or their spouse's employment tanked and they snapped up the few jobs made it to outside postings. New grads are expensive to train and usually don't stick around. Experienced nurses who have been out of the field for a couple years are quicker and cheaper to bring up to speed.

    It also frustrates me to no end when I read post after post from new nurses lamenting the a lack of "new grad" positions, the implication is not much effort is being made outside the hospitals. If I needed a job I'd be on the street every day, dressed to interview, going door to door, filling out applications in person at any place that might possibly employ nurses.
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  3. Visit  whodatnurse} profile page
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    Such charitable assumptions some of you folks make about those of us struggling to find work.
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    Quote from whodatnurse
    Such charitable assumptions some of you folks make about those of us struggling to find work.
    Yep, there's no shortage of posts declaring that the unemployed new grads are lazy/sloppy/greedy/picky/inflexible and that if they just weren't all those things then of course there are jobs for them.

    Quite an unrealistic view, IMO. Especially the part about knocking on doors... just not gonna happen at any of the hospitals around here. Either you know someone on the inside who has some pull or else you go through the website... period.

    My heart goes out to all the new grads (and old grads) who haven't been able to find work. I know that, for the most part, it's nothing about you... it's just the situation. I wish I could say that I think it'll turn around soon... I'm not so sure about that, though (the recent run-up on Wall Street notwithstanding).
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    Quote from milobust
    OP, I've read some of your previous posts and, with all due respect, I DON'T think you should be a nurse. I would not want someone with your attitude caring for anyone. Many of us on the site have been through heck and back and have a passion for nursing that 1, 2 or 12 months of unemployment will never destroy. I don't know what entitles you to get exactly what you want when you want it but it's time to wake up. You want a guarantee? Too bad, doesn't exist. Good luck in your next non-nursing career.
    Your post is absolutely permeated with judgmental undertones and overtones. The nursing profession is in need of nonjudgmental people. Please don't judge until you have walked one mile in the OP's shoes.
  6. Visit  footy7171} profile page
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    you are all really scaring me! i am graduating ( lord willing ) in May, and I have put a lot on the line to go back to school.
    after reading this post you all have me wondering if i should of been a school counselor instead!!! yikes!
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    Sorry, must have forgot to copy the link! Here it is...

    http://www.son.jhmi.edu/resources/ca...view_guide.pdf.
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    *****
    Last edit by nursel56 on Aug 4, '10
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    Quote from nursel56
    Just wondering why so many people totally broadsided by this situation.
    I'm ONLY responding to your very last sentence. I have nothing to say about the rest of it.

    The classes that graduated between May 2009 and December 2009 absolutely were blindsided.

    When I applied to my ABSN program in March of 2008, nursing jobs for new grads had yet to take a hit. Months into starting in the fall of that year was when our class realized just HOW bad it had become, when hospitals would come to our university for job fairs, only to inform us that they had nothing for new grads at that time. At that point we were nearly halfway through the program, and most of us had given up nearly everything to be there...so we saw it out through the summer of 2009.

    Quite a few of my classmates were in hospital programs that paid their tuition in exchange for their agreeing to come work there for 2 years after graduating. About 1/2 of them were not hired...the hospitals forfeited their investment in them because they had nowhere to place them.
    Last edit by whodatnurse on Aug 4, '10 : Reason: Error: Changed May 2008 to May 2009
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    Quote from whodatnurse
    I'm ONLY responding to your very last sentence. I have nothing to say about the rest of it.

    The classes that graduated between May 2008 and December 2009 absolutely were blindsided.

    When I applied to my ABSN program in March of 2008, nursing jobs for new grads had yet to take a hit. Months into starting in the fall of that year was when our class realized just HOW bad it had become, when hospitals would come to our university for job fairs, only to inform us that they had nothing for new grads at that time. At that point we were nearly halfway through the program, and most of us had given up nearly everything to be there...so we saw it out through the summer of 2009.

    Quite a few of my classmates were in hospital programs that paid their tuition in exchange for their agreeing to come work there for 2 years after graduating. About 1/2 of them were not hired...the hospitals forfeited their investment in them because they had nowhere to place them.
    I have a similar experience. I started my ADN program in 2007. I ended up repeating a semester so instead of graduating in May 2009 I graduated in Dec 2009. All my classmates from May found jobs within a few weeks. Some of my classmates from Dec 2009 are still looking, things changed that quickly! Some that had been CNA's in hospitals for 7+ years couldn't get hired as RNs at those hospitals despite years of promises. If I was a student in the middle of school now I honestly don't know what I would do. Nursing is all I ever wanted to do, but that's a lot of debt if you can't find a job afterward.
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    Thank you both for responding. I didn't intend for my post to be insulting and I hope you didn't take it that way. I checked classified ads in school just to check out who was offering the best cruise, and it really was (and is) part of the cultural DNA to assume it will always be a seller's market with respect to nursing.

    It does seem as if the number of new grads seeking employment rose as a gradual upward trend and then shot up very quickly around the first of the year.
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    Quote from nursel56
    Thank you both for responding. I didn't intend for my post to be insulting and I hope you didn't take it that way. I checked classified ads in school just to check out who was offering the best cruise, and it really was (and is) part of the cultural DNA to assume it will always be a seller's market with respect to nursing.

    It does seem as if the number of new grads seeking employment rose as a gradual upward trend and then shot up very quickly around the first of the year.
    You're very welcome.

    I did stop and think for a minute before deciding whether or not to respond to your previous post. (I don't waste my time on any that are clearly nothing more than bait for a back-and-forth that will ultimately end up nowhere.) I picked up an inkling of 'genuinely seeks understanding' so I did.

    I appreciate you sharing the frame of reference for that post and your open-mindedness to the possibility of tweaking it in consideration of new information that is QUITE different from the old. (Cruises? Only in my wildest dreams! At this point, I would even be willing to do without ANY benefits. All I want is a steady paycheck that's enough to pay the mortgage and monthly fees on my condo, gas and electric utility bills, gas and insurance for my car, and food for myself and a pair of felines. I hope, I hope, I hope that's not too much too want in the America of 2010. I'm starting to fear that it is.)
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    I think it is horrid that the schools are still packing them in and so many have no idea how dismal the new grad job market is. And no one can predict when it will change.

    Take heart all you new grads. It is really rough. Hopefully things will change sooner rather than later.
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    Quote from whodatnurse
    . . . . (Cruises? Only in my wildest dreams! At this point, I would even be willing to do without ANY benefits. All I want is a steady paycheck that's enough to pay the mortgage and monthly fees on my condo, gas and electric utility bills, gas and insurance for my car, and food for myself and a pair of felines. I hope, I hope, I hope that's not too much too want in the America of 2010. I'm starting to fear that it is.)
    Throughtout most of the 70s and 80s in my city it was common to offer all sorts of lures for new grads, which is probably why so many new programs were developed and nursing got the reputatiion as basically an instant job. I left for a while and had to return to work in 2004 (luckily I had kept my license on inactive so it wasn't hard to re-activate (30CEUs in CA). I was in Colorado at the time and expected a welcome back parade and got more of a "so what?" response. I think if I had more recent acute care experience a large med school affiliated cancer hospital would have hired me-- I was past the 2nd interview and got nixed by someone higher up. It was disappointing. Now, though I don't think I would have stood a chance.

    Someone (can't remember who or where) brought up the idea of new grads marching on Washington and setting up a "camp" like the Bonus Army of the 30s to bring attention to their plight. It's kind of a funny mental image!!

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