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| | How long should you wait before transferring to another unit????
I'm a new grad working on a medical floor. I've been off orientation for almost three months, and so far I really don't care for it. Part of it I think is because of the lack of teamwork on the unit. None of the nurses want to help eachother out! If one nurse is behind and struggling, NO ONE offers to help--instead they'll go take lunch break or sit in the nurses station and talk!!  Anyways....I would like to work in ER or ICU, but how long should I try to stick it out for on the medical floor?? Is one year enough.....
Thanks in advance for any help/advice you can give! I appreciate it!!!!! Search Tags | | Advertisement Sponsored Links | | | | No. 2 |
Sep 14, 2009, 10:32 AM
Re: How long should you wait before transferring to another unit????
The basic rule that I have heard is 2 years, and I completely agree with that. I don't think anyone should switch jobs or floors after 3 months. I completely disagree with the above poster. If you transfer to another hospital after only 3 months, it's going to look really, really bad on future resumes, and that's assuming that anyone will hire you when you are looking to leave a job after only 3 months (which I sincerely doubt). As you can see, the above poster was denied the ED twice. This is because you should not switch floors for, at the very least, 1 year, and 2 years for critical care areas. It's true that some hospitals hire nurses right into critical care areas, but they usually have a specific and extensive orientation program. Why would a hospital spend resources orienting a nurse to a critical care area when they just oriented them to a different area and then the nurse wanted to leave after only 3 months? I think any transfer before 2 years makes a person look like a quitter.
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Sep 14, 2009, 12:12 PM
Re: How long should you wait before transferring to another unit???? Originally Posted by gogatsby I've been at my hospital for about four months, and I *really* want to switch hospital. I'm currently on a med/surg unit, and I would try one at another hospital, but I'm just very unhappy with how my hospital is run. I don't think it's too early to start looking...you never know what you may find! People switch jobs all the time...I'm not sure why nursing has this "you must do your time" mindset. If you don't like your job or your working conditions, you have every right to find something you like better.
It's not a "nursing mindset", any career services professional or job guru will tell you that non-temporary, short tenures of employment look really bad, especially when you just start out. What happens if you leave your job and hate the new job as well, or get fired, or get laid off? Then you're going to have 2 jobs with only a few months at each place and people are going to think you're a job-hopper. Oh, and I hate to break this to you, but I sincerely doubt that you are going to like the way that any hospital is being run. Politics is politics, no matter where you go. I also don't know many people who switch jobs "all the time", at lest not without being at one job for a significant time.
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Sep 14, 2009, 12:45 PM
Re: How long should you wait before transferring to another unit????
While I understand that it is better to stay at a job to demonstrate commitment and feel comfortable where you work, I really do believe that if you're unhappy with where you are, then you should pursue other opportunities. I believe I have very valid reasons for not staying at the facility where I work, even if it hasn't been one-two years yet. Will another hospital be just the same? Maybe, maybe not. You never know unless you try. I will be more selective in my next job search, as I can afford to be...last time around it was, "Take whatever you can get because no one is hiring new grads." With a little more experience under my belt (what little it may be), I feel like I have a better opportunity to find something that works better for me...and therefore, will be better for my patients.
Just my opinion, although I certainly understand what you're saying.
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Sep 14, 2009, 12:56 PM
Re: How long should you wait before transferring to another unit????
What's with the one year?
It cost the floor money to give you the extensive orientation new grads require. If you want to work in a speciality, it will cost your new employer extra money it takes to give you the longer orientation new grads require. Money is tight now.
Unless you are so unhappy you cannot function, are being mistreated, or are being pushed into unsafe practice, stay where you are for now.
Prove that you are not the sort of person who quits at the first minor hardship. Use your time to look around at the job market in your area. Shadow a few nurses and ask around about other nurses workplaces.
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Sep 14, 2009, 09:35 PM
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Sep 14, 2009 at 09:44 PM by MBARN08
Re: How long should you wait before transferring to another unit???? Originally Posted by MikeyBSN If you transfer to another hospital after only 3 months, it's going to look really, really bad on future resumes, and that's assuming that anyone will hire you when you are looking to leave a job after only 3 months (which I sincerely doubt). As you can see, the above poster was denied the ED twice. This is because you should not switch floors for, at the very least, 1 year, and 2 years for critical care areas. Your post is untrue! First of all I worked for my organization for over 2 years and so it does not look bad on my resume. Also, I was given permission to transfer within my current hospital because my floor closed on me after orientation (no fault of my own). So, I applied and was denied twice for the reason that New Grads were not being taken both times I applied. Next time you try to use a poster as an example, know the facts! BTW, there are plenty of posters (New Grads) who quit one job for another with no repercussions. In general, who-you-know out weights general rules of remain at a job you hate for any length of time! Plus, no one cares how long you remained at a particular job if you have a legitimate excuse to leave. Having your heart set on a particular specialty is a legitimate excuse. So is leaving a floor that is "not the right fit". Ask experienced nurses how often they have jumped around and used that reason or another to leave an employer. Originally Posted by MikeyBSN I think any transfer before 2 years makes a person look like a quitter.
Quitters?? We are not mechanics we are Nurses! We work on patients, not cars! We need not remain in a bad situation because "The Man" says so (BTW, I am not calling you The Man, I am referring to a rule made up by employers and not workers)! OP: Do not remain on a bad floor! You may not have a license of which to speak of in 2 years! | | No. 8 |
Sep 17, 2009, 07:53 AM
Re: How long should you wait before transferring to another unit???? Originally Posted by MBARN08
Quitters?? We are not mechanics we are Nurses! We work on patients, not cars! We need not remain in a bad situation because "The Man" says so
I completely agree. As nurses, we work hard for our money, and it's not worth it to stay in a position that you are really unhappy with, especially if it is making you rethink nursing as a whole!
I started in the CVICU straight out of nursing school, although everyone said it was a bad idea. It was probably the best decision I make... it is a perfect fit, and I'm learning like crazy! However, like some previous posts have mentioned, the hospital I work for had an amazing orientation program. I worked with a preceptor for three months, took ICU classes, and a whole bunch of other education on pacemakers, open heart surgeries, IABPs, basic and 12 lead EKG classes. But I think the thing that mattered the most with the entire experience was the support I received from my co-workers, managers, and educator. If you don't feel supported by the people around you, the chances of succeeding are decreased. I never feel uncomfortable asking a question, even if it's something I feel like I should know already. I have truly become a better nurse than I thought I ever could be because of my experience here.
If you do not like your floor/unit, I suggest looking elsewhere. Other people were right in the fact that money is tight now, so it might be difficult to find something else right now that is exactly what you want. The original post was regarding going from a floor to the ICU or ED... does your hospital have an ED or ICU? We have a lot of tele nurses that just come up and talk to our managers or director if they are interested in coming up to the ICU. It doesn't hurt to ask. You will learn wherever you are, but if you don't like where you are or feel like you aren't challenged enough, look elsewhere. | | No. 9 |
Sep 17, 2009, 05:47 PM
Re: How long should you wait before transferring to another unit???? Your post is untrue! First of all I worked for my organization for over 2 years and so it does not look bad on my resume. Also, I was given permission to transfer within my current hospital because my floor closed on me after orientation (no fault of my own). So, I applied and was denied twice for the reason that New Grads were not being taken both times I applied. Next time you try to use a poster as an example, know the facts! Your profile says you have been a nurse for 1 year, so how did you apply twice after working for two years? They denied you because they were not taking new grads? You're a new grad at two years? I don't think so. I think you misunderstood my post. That part of my post was about not transferring floors until you have 2 years of nursing experience on the floor. Changing employers is a different issue. BTW, there are plenty of posters (New Grads) who quit one job for another with no repercussions. In general, who-you-know out weights general rules of remain at a job you hate for any length of time! Plus, no one cares how long you remained at a particular job if you have a legitimate excuse to leave. Having your heart set on a particular specialty is a legitimate excuse. So is leaving a floor that is "not the right fit". Ask experienced nurses how often they have jumped around and used that reason or another to leave an employer. Yes, there are plenty of grad changing jobs, and they're taking a huge risk. Just look at all the people on here who can't find jobs. I agree that "who you know" helps, but what if you don't know anyone? I've been working since I was 14 and every manager I've ever known and most career experts say that short term tenures look suspicious. It doesn't mean you can't get a job if you have them, but you'll have some explaining to do. So if she hates it that bad then leave, but just know that it is a pretty big risk, especially as a new job.
Quitters?? We are not mechanics we are Nurses! We work on patients, not cars! We need not remain in a bad situation because "The Man" says so (BTW, I am not calling you The Man, I am referring to a rule made up by employers and not workers)! I'm not saying she has to do what "the man" says. I'm just saying that, in my experience, leaving a job after a short time is risky. I don't want her to get stuck like I've seen so many people get stuck after making that decision. OP: Do not remain on a bad floor! You may not have a license of which to speak of in 2 years! | | 150 members
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