Hiring negotiation

  1. Hi all this is my first message,
    Is it unusual for new grads to try to negotioate for hiring bonuses even though the hospital does not advertise them? I graduated from a school in PA but moved to WA state (Seattle) not realizing they won't let you work here on a temporary license. So it took me a while to get my NCLEX etc... Also, unlike PA where the shortages must be much worse, I don't see hiring bonuses advertised in the Seattle area. I have interviewed around and no one has mentioned them either. Now I have decided on a hospital I like, should I try to negotiate for more money?
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  3. by   llg
    It's fine to ask whether or not there are hiring bonuses, retention bonuses, etc., but there is usually not much room for negotiation for new grads. Unless you bring some special previous experience with you, there is no reason for them to pay you any more than they would any other new grad. To pay you more would be unfair to their other employees -- and a good hospital will not do that.

    So, while you may politely ask, it would be unwise to push it much farther than a polite inquiry. Being too demanding will make you look like an undesirable, overly-demanding employee that no one will want to hire.

    llg
  4. by   glow_worm
    Sitterwoman....

    I am hoping to hear from you. My husband & I are moving to Seattle in June, after graduating from a nursing program in May. Since you have now lived in Seattle for at least a few months, could you write regarding the employment situation there? I would love to know where you applied, what you think about Harborview in particular, how the interviewing went, etc... Also, anything else you may want to say about Seattle would be much appreciated.

    Your profile states that you were a geneticist -- I never made it that far, I've just done laboratory work with a biology degree -- but I'm interested in knowing why you decided to go into nursing? Also, do you at all regret the decision, or are you looking forward to this new career? Anyway, I'd love to hear from someone I could possibly relate to! Email: robannjez@aol.com
  5. by   jillybeans
    I have learnt that you should only ask about sign-on bonuses, benefits etc. when an offer of employment is on the table. ou will appear unprofessional otherwise.
  6. by   fourbirds4me
    Make sure to ask about any bonuses etc... I friend of mine was not in the same orientation group that I was and did not get the $3000 I did because it was never mentioned in her group and she did not find out about it until it was too late....
  7. by   Ned the Red
    Finally, a subject on these boards that this future RN knows something about. Right now all I do is negotiate for companies and then write contracts. So, here's the deal: EVERYTHING is negotiable but ONLY after you know you have the job. At that point they've they're psychologically engaged and they'll need to keep you on board or risk feeling that they've lost you.

    So, what do you ask for and how do you ask it? It's up to you, depending on what's important to you. Remember that some things that might be important to you are nothing to them - those will be easy to get. Other items you'll never get and you risk making the deal go south just by asking. So, that company car and a clothing allowance is probably out. Just remember to keep smiling while you ask for things and always always always be ready to walk away. Remember - it won't be a good job for you in six months if it isn't a good job for you now.

    Next, get it in writing. If you don't feel comfortable asking them to put it in writing, get their email address and quickly send a not confirming what you've talked about. Keep a copy. When you walk in to start work and find that some of the things you were promised aren't happening you'll have some ammunition.

    What do you do when you find that they've lied to you? That there is mandatory O/T, the pay isn't as high as you were promised, or the conditions are unsafe? Once again, be ready to walk. And.... make sure they know you'll walk. They may be stupid enoug to let you leave but, if that's the case, you don't want to work for them anyway.

    So, the two most important things are that you know your bottom line and that you're willing to stand up and leave the table if you don't get it.

    Let us know how you do with it!

    Ned

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