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| No. 20 |
May 25, 2008, 12:06 AM
Re: help! i think i hate nursing! Originally Posted by november551 "Minimum Data Set"
Medicaid (or medicare?) requires a certain amount of charting per patient for the facility to get paid.
In a long term care setting, that means that there needs to be a coordinator (chart nazi) to make sure these charting requirements are met.
That's where the MDS nurse steps in. Believe it or not, it is a full time job. Most facilities are more than happy to have an MDS nurse because medicare/medicaid is their bread and butter.
I might be a bit off in the description, since I've never worked in the MDS field. I do remember that the MDS nurse at my old job didn't do a whole hell of a lot except flip through charts and give innoculations to the employees every now and then.
I've actually seen MDS positions open at local nursing homes in the help wanted ads. I don't think it matters if you are an LPN or an RN.
Gawd November,
seems like we already have chart nazis on our unit threefold over! But sounds good to me! Esp if I can get out of my gossipy-school-yard-back-stabbing-cold-shouldering-small-minded-mean-girl atmosphere and go hang w/ the geris for a while. Nothing but love and appreciation there.
Thanks for the full explanation.
Chloe 
RN-BSN, BA
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May 25, 2008, 05:16 AM
Re: help! i think i hate nursing!
Our facility has 3 full-time MDS nurses. All are LPNS. And the owner still complains that he isn't making enough money at our facility, and refuses to give anyone a raise.
In the past 3 months, we've had 2 meetings on charting. "Chart, chart and chart some more....you idiots," is about what the meetings are about.
| | No. 22 |
May 25, 2008, 07:50 AM
Re: help! i think i hate nursing!
At times I have wondered why there isn't a full time person on staff who just does charts -- even on regular units. I mean -- what IF we had such a person -- and you could do your job without having to be bogged down by so much charting? You could do the basics, of course -- but not have to check every single page to see if each one has a sticker, or that each form is on the chart, or that it has been DONE, 1,000 times over -- I mean -- I think there COULD be someone who could do that specifically for all the nurses on a shift.
I can only dream... can't I?
| | No. 23 |
May 25, 2008, 03:37 PM
Re: help! i think i hate nursing! Originally Posted by SoundofMusic At times I have wondered why there isn't a full time person on staff who just does charts -- even on regular units. I mean -- what IF we had such a person -- and you could do your job without having to be bogged down by so much charting? You could do the basics, of course -- but not have to check every single page to see if each one has a sticker, or that each form is on the chart, or that it has been DONE, 1,000 times over -- I mean -- I think there COULD be someone who could do that specifically for all the nurses on a shift.
I can only dream... can't I?
Dream on SofM,
dream on!!!!!!!!!!
Chloe 
RN-BSN, BA
| | No. 24 |
May 25, 2008, 04:39 PM
Re: help! i think i hate nursing! Originally Posted by SoundofMusic I will undoubtedly get out of bedside nursing at least 2 years down the road. I just cannot handle it physically, emotionally, philosophically, or any other way. I don't regret getting the degree, but I do wish I'd really investigated this career before I started it.
I'm off orientation here in about 2 weeks, and I'm petrified. There is NO WAY I have the wherewithall to handle some of our patient assignments on my own yet, even after this long 16 week orientation. There is so much critical thinking, so much of everything -- I just know that the next six months even will be pure hell and now I'll be on my own, begging these wicked nurses to help me and it will be ridiculous. I just don't look forward to it at ALL.
The way orientation is run, there is just no way -- there is no consistency -- no clear path. You are just stuck with a different nurse everytime and it's up to HER/HIM whether or not you are going to really learn something, or just learn to do charts, round, and give meds. I actually had a "teacher" for a preceptor the other night and she was so awesome -- if I'd had her the entire time, perhaps I'd be ready -- but I didn't. I've had chart nazis, stress mongers, anal retentives, as well as total slackers. Some prepared me somewhat -- but it's just the inconsistency of it all.
Oh well -- I just say to myself what I say everyday: "If I can't do it, I guess they'll just kick me out and that will be it - (and that may not be so bad!" ) 
Ditto you there S of M,
but if you can take that last sentence attitude, I say good for you!! That's the biggest toughie for me to combat. I am at the end of my rope. I have so much riding on this career that I'm $60k in debt for. I gotta make it work. And I figure OB is my best match. So after this, perhaps I'll have enough skills to attempt that MDS or school nurse or something else outside of hospital work? I'm also looking at 1-2-3 years down the road.
I guess what really slays me is seeing all the grumpy unhappy whiney nurses dragging out of work and into work each shift and wondering if it actually does get any better. Are there happy nurses ANYWHERE????? This is sooooooooooo disappointing. I hate to think I worked so hard to get here and it just doesn't get any better. 
Chloe
| | No. 25 |
May 26, 2008, 07:21 PM
Re: help! i think i hate nursing!
I think everyone should realize that the doors are wide open for you to obtain work outside of a hospital setting. With LPN or RN licensure, you can go apply at the Biomedical Laboratories, BioPharma companies, any company that deals with Biological Science will do.
They need certified, licensed professionals who know about the medical field to do a myriad of different types of jobs, from collecting and organizing data, creating reports, data entry, clinical trial management etc.
Becoming a Nurse may not be for you for whatever reason, but most definitely you have a specialized type of knowledge that most people don't who are not in the medical profession.
Get your resume together and start circulating it. You might be surprised at what comes your way.
Good luck.
| | No. 26 |
Jun 10, 2008, 11:07 AM
Re: help! i think i hate nursing!
I felt the same way. I have been an Rn for over 10 years now, and I love it now. When I first started, I hated it. I was working night shift in busy step down unit. The seasoned nurses were mean, rude, and unhelpful. The qulity of nursing was awful, My hear would race everytime I had to go towork, I was becoming a nervous wreck. I felt like we were abusing patients. The staffing sucked.
I transferred to a smaller hospital, changed to day shift, and started to take one day at a time. To begin withthe nurses I wokred with were wonderful - that helps a lot. I realized that I couldn't change the world, that the gifts of nursing come in moments, which you have to be in the moment to seize.
if we have our own integrity, relax, think of each patient with respect, those moments will come.
I hate standing on myfeet for 8 hours, I hate the chaos, I hate not having a space to chart. But when a patient comes back to see me to say Thank you, or tells me that they loved having me as a nurse, or if I can hold a lonely dying person's hand, or just reassure someone, or bring their heart rate down, or act quickly to relieve their chest pain, or bleeding - I take home more than the average person does.
Relax. You will find your niche - It may take a while. Maybe a different type of nursing would be good for you. | | No. 27 |
Jun 12, 2008, 07:52 AM
Re: help! i think i hate nursing!
prikaybran2 - what kind of key words should I search for - what you listed, "collecting and organizing data, creating reports, data entry, clinical trial management etc." sounds exactly like what I want to do, but I cant find anything other than floor nursing! thank you!
| | No. 28 |
Jun 13, 2008, 06:50 AM
Re: help! i think i hate nursing!
Apparently MDS nursing takes skills only learned on the unit as well.
Geesh!! Looks like I'm going to have to take a job w/ a $10k pay cut (and that sucks for new grad y'all!!) just to save my sanity and build time til I can qualify for anything!
This just proves to me that there is NO reason to go to an overpriced private university to get your BSN. It's not that I went into nursing for the big $$. but I do admit I fell into it for stability and now I'm going to be struggling more to pay off all the debt. (but that's another thread for another time)
YUP, I do believe I HATE nursing. Sure wish I could stop wanting to care for people though.
{sigh}
Chloe
| | No. 29 |
Jun 13, 2008, 12:54 PM
Re: help! i think i hate nursing! Originally Posted by prikaybran2 Becoming a Nurse may not be for you for whatever reason, but most definitely you have a specialized type of knowledge that most people don't who are not in the medical profession.
Get your resume together and start circulating it. You might be surprised at what comes your way.
I agree with this. There are many opportunities out there that aren't specifically nursing where one's background in health care can be a benefit. Originally Posted by prikaybran2 the doors are wide open for you to obtain work outside of a hospital setting.
I do think "doors are wide open" is a bit of an overstatement, though, especially for those without a lot of previous clinical experience to offer. A person generally has to be creative and persistant to find and obtain a non-nursing, health care/bioscience jobs that match their talents and interests. A person can't count on being able to browse the internet, fax a resume, and wham! be offered a great job. I'd say instead that having the background in nursing can help you "get your foot in the door" to other health care/bioscience jobs.
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