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No. 20
from kittykatty
Old Sep 23, 2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by I_LOVE_TRAUMA View Post
All I'm saying is that unless you've SEEN her provide unsafe care, there is no way for you to know that she will. And her comments about chest tubes and stuff makes her sound like half the new grads I precept-some learn slower than others, but they get it. You will find after you have been around awhile that there are nurses and even NM all over the hospital who don't know what they are doing and don't care to learn. If you are not her boss, who are you to judge how good she will become. I see this in new grads all the time, and no offense please, but it usually has to do with someone trying to make their self look better equipt for the job. Almost all new grads 'get it' soon enough, Some of the ones that appeared to be inadequate or uncaring in the beginning I would trust my kids to now. Get yourself some good experience during this time and let the proper people worry about her
You said that very well and you are so right!!! Don't get involved--it is not your business!!! Concentrate on what you need to do to become an excellent nurse.
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No. 21
from diane227
Old Sep 26, 2009, 09:16 AM

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Lying on your application is grounds for termination. You have 90 days to get someone out of your facility without having to go through due process. This woman does not sound safe and I would not want her to take care of me. I would speak to someone about this and soon. The problem with waiting is that she may do harm to a patient in the meantime. I don't know what your relationship is with your manager yet. You might want to sit down with the HR person and tell them what you know and leave it at that. Then they can decide what to do. Were I the manager of this unit I would want to know this information immediately.
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No. 22
from meluhn
Old Sep 26, 2009, 02:02 PM

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I would just leave it alone. How do you know they hired her b/c she had add? Maybe she interviews well and they would have hired her anyway. If she is as bad as you say, she will be found out in the end. If you go to HR or anyone else with this you are going to look like a "butinski" for lack of a better term. Just myob and let her do what she will.
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No. 23
Old Sep 26, 2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by I_LOVE_TRAUMA View Post
I would just leave it alone. It really doesn't concern you. If you just let her be, she will soon enough drown herself, if you get involved it will somehow come back to hurt you. You are not her boss, and it will be her word against yours. Just worry about you, you do not need to babysit another grown up. Just my
Exactly. As Grandma used to say "MYOB"
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No. 24
Old Oct 17, 2009, 09:33 AM

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Well thanks again for all the advice. She continues to mess things up. We are in our 4th month of orientation now. Since we are house floats we are supposed to be trained on three different floors. We are critical care nurses and she is making us look bad. When I get to a dept. that she just left I get preceptors that worked with her ask me stuff like...'are you gonna just follow me around like she did or are you going to do actual work?' On one floor we are supposed to be caring for open heart patients that are POD 2-5. I got thrown under the bus by a manager and preceptor because they found out after she left that rotationt that we were supposed to take care of at least three patients. She told them that she was still in the shadow phase and she wasn't suppose to do any actual care. When the manager found out she told me that she was sick of slackers and gave me three POD3 pts. I was running around like a chicken with my head cut off and only by the grace of two really good nurses that helped me out was I able to get everything done. I took the challenge in stride because it was only after I finished....two hours late did the manager tell me why she gave me that pt load. I learned alot that day so I should thank her for that. I am still not saying anything about her because she is not doing any care. She calls off work, shows up late to the unit after she clocks in, hides in the lounge and still has yet to even speak to a doctor. All the other interns are fed up with her. I don't know how long she will last but at this time I am staying as far away from her as I possibly can.
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No. 25
from nurse2be09
Old Oct 17, 2009, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Dramqueenie1 View Post
Well thanks again for all the advice. She continues to mess things up. We are in our 4th month of orientation now. Since we are house floats we are supposed to be trained on three different floors. We are critical care nurses and she is making us look bad. When I get to a dept. that she just left I get preceptors that worked with her ask me stuff like...'are you gonna just follow me around like she did or are you going to do actual work?' On one floor we are supposed to be caring for open heart patients that are POD 2-5. I got thrown under the bus by a manager and preceptor because they found out after she left that rotationt that we were supposed to take care of at least three patients. She told them that she was still in the shadow phase and she wasn't suppose to do any actual care. When the manager found out she told me that she was sick of slackers and gave me three POD3 pts. I was running around like a chicken with my head cut off and only by the grace of two really good nurses that helped me out was I able to get everything done. I took the challenge in stride because it was only after I finished....two hours late did the manager tell me why she gave me that pt load. I learned alot that day so I should thank her for that. I am still not saying anything about her because she is not doing any care. She calls off work, shows up late to the unit after she clocks in, hides in the lounge and still has yet to even speak to a doctor. All the other interns are fed up with her. I don't know how long she will last but at this time I am staying as far away from her as I possibly can.
I don't understand why YOU are so concerned about her nursing abilities, or lack thereof. I'm gonna go with everyone else on this and say mind your own business. So what she told the preceptor on the previous rotation she is still "shadowing". How does that make YOU look bad? YOU are your own person, and when that preceptor asked you if you were gonna follow her around or actual do something, then that was your opportunity to show the preceptor YOUR initiative to learn and jump in with both feet.

I am also in a new grad residency program, and there are several new grads among us. I am focused on MY learning and what I need to do to become a better nurse. I know as a new grad, I'm too busy worrying about MY own license, and trying to transition into my new role as a new nurse than to be worried about the next new grad. If this person is as bad as you say she is, then she will be found out eventually. Why are you worried about how SHE is making YOU look? You need to be worried about your own backyard. Just my opinion.
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No. 26
from axshusz
Old Oct 17, 2009, 10:47 AM

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While I still think to some extent you should confidentially report what you were told. If you choose not to and while she remains in the program you're going to have to deal with this.
I'd see it as your time to shine! She's setting you up for success.

I would request that the manager make what she was told to your program head.
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No. 27
from meluhn
Old Oct 17, 2009, 11:05 AM

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No offense but it has been my experience that only insecure nurses try to make themselves look better by pointing out the inferiority of others. I am not saying she is not a loser but I am saying it is none of your business. Forget her and just myob, she is not your problem. Just learn everything you can and trust yourself that you have learned it. But also, never be afraid to ask questions if you dont know something. Dont let your insecurities get the best of you, pointing out her "mistakes" is not making you a better nurse, it just makes you part of the "mean girl" culture of nursing. People will respect you more if you just do your job and don't gossip. If you have to, vent to your husband or BF.
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No. 28
Old Oct 17, 2009, 11:12 AM

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I understand either side to this. On one hand she could hurt someone with her irresponsibility, but only if she's taking assignments, which she is not. I am personally concerned with the abilities of my coworkers, because I truly care about the patients that my team cares for, and I like to be able to take pride in my work. Bad care provided by one or a few team members reflects poorly on the entire institution, and like I said, I want to take pride. Haha I wish I could get paid an RN salary to chill in the lounge! On the bright side it's nice that she is making you look good, but not fair that you are taking the crap that she is causing. At least she provided with you an excellent learning experience from your crazy assignment. I understand that her behavior makes the other interns look bad, because if I had a bad student in my clinical group in nursing school, often the staff nurses on the units we were rotating through would take it out on all of us. We had a student in my group who got to go to the OR, and she pulled out her cell phone and started texting during the surgery while sitting on a counter. Needless to say nobody got to go to the OR or anywhere off of the unit after that, and the school probably had trouble renewing that hospital as a clinical site. That's why one bad seed from a group can affect all. This is apparent to others, so perhaps she will be gone soon without your intervention, unless of course they blow it off because of her "medical condition."
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No. 29
Old Oct 17, 2009, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by meluhn View Post
No offense but it has been my experience that only insecure nurses try to make themselves look better by pointing out the inferiority of others. I am not saying she is not a loser but I am saying it is none of your business. Forget her and just myob, she is not your problem. Just learn everything you can and trust yourself that you have learned it. But also, never be afraid to ask questions if you dont know something. Dont let your insecurities get the best of you, pointing out her "mistakes" is not making you a better nurse, it just makes you part of the "mean girl" culture of nursing. People will respect you more if you just do your job and don't gossip. If you have to, vent to your husband or BF.
I agree that insecure nurses try to make themselves look better by pointing out petty things. I think that a nurse who points out unsafe behavior is demonstrating leadership skills. True that she is not your problem, but I believe that safety is everyone's responsibility, and I think that is what makes me an asset to my team. Of course we are not there to know she is putting anyone at risk, only you can decide that, because she is apparently not taking over patients. Eventually they will make her because they are not going to pay her as a nurse to sit on her butt, and if she is not making the effort to learn now, she will not be prepared then. I agree that people will respect you more if you don't gossip, but confidentially expressing your concern to management is not gossiping.
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