What was the MOST ridiculous thing a patient came to the ER for? - page 105

and do you have to treat them? I am just curious. Your stories always seem to either crack me up or shake my head in amazement. Thanks for sharing :)... Read More

  1. by   sharpeimom
    Quote from omgwhatisthatsmell
    i am offended.

    you clearly have no idea what it is like to be poor. have you ever had to ration food so your children would be able to eat? i doubt it.

    Quote from cindy_a
    i think maybe her point was, that the bra needed to be cut off because of a medical emergency. if you could die, your bra should be the least of your worries. if the person was that poor, i'd buy them a new bra myself, or see if the hospital would replace it. that is, if the person survived.
    bras (new ones) are available through the salvation army, associated charaties, many woman's charities,
    just to name a few places. sources like the the welfare board, food pantries have lists of who in a given area handles such clothing issues. if this mystery patient's only bra had had to be cut off in many hospitals, they would have had resources for her to visit.

    as a previous poster pointed out, having to request a new bra was a nonissue, compared to having a potentially life-threatening problem go untreated.

    people get upset over oddball things frequently, but what they rant, rave and complain about usually isn't what they're really bent out of shape over.

    kathy
    shar pei mom
  2. by   inteRN
    Quote from Tink RN
    I think one of the most rediculous was for a pregnancy test. Min cost of $500.00 for the ER visit when they could have bought one at Walmart for like $7! Or even have one done free at the health dept ... I'm sure that bill didn't get paid anyway.
    because medicaid won't cover them unless they have documentation of +pregnancy from a dr/hospital--a jacked up catch 22 huh...
  3. by   ThrowEdNurse
    "My water got turned off."
  4. by   JeanettePNP
    Quote from Tonjia
    not since 1998 when EMTALA was put into law. My solution for the healthcare crisis..... abolish EMTALA
    No, not a solution. EMTALA is meant to enable access to the ER for people who are in true need. If there was better gatekeeping at triage to keep the non-sick (let alone non-emergent) out of the ER this would be much less of an issue.
  5. by   ThrowEdNurse
    Quote from ChayaN
    No, not a solution. EMTALA is meant to enable access to the ER for people who are in true need. If there was better gatekeeping at triage to keep the non-sick (let alone non-emergent) out of the ER this would be much less of an issue.
    An RN cannot "gatekeep" at triage because under EMTALA all pts presenting get a medical exam by an MD. Without EMTALA EDs could operate properly, as in caring for the sickest first and immediately in order to protect the MDs licenses and prevent being sued. We don't need EMTALA for this. EMTALA guarantees all private pay and indigent pts abuse the system daily. Anyone who doesn't see this needs to volunteer where I work for a week. Without EMTALA, the ED would be used appropriately and the dept could appropriately care for ALL presenting pts because no one would abuse the system. People may even pick up the phone and (gasp) call a PCP! They may not come to the ER for runny noses (gasp)! They may not come, even if they puked once (egad)! Also, making no attempt to pay your health care bills should be a felony.
  6. by   inteRN
    Quote from ThrowEdNurse
    An RN cannot "gatekeep" at triage because under EMTALA all pts presenting get a medical exam by an MD. Without EMTALA EDs could operate properly, as in caring for the sickest first and immediately in order to protect the MDs licenses and prevent being sued. We don't need EMTALA for this. EMTALA guarantees all private pay and indigent pts abuse the system daily. Anyone who doesn't see this needs to volunteer where I work for a week. Without EMTALA, the ED would be used appropriately and the dept could appropriately care for ALL presenting pts because no one would abuse the system. People may even pick up the phone and (gasp) call a PCP! They may not come to the ER for runny noses (gasp)! They may not come, even if they puked once (egad)! Also, making no attempt to pay your health care bills should be a felony.
    They also should have a policeman out at all times to catch the "patients" who are driving to the ER under the influence of drugs. I have no tolerance for people driving up to the ER after (they've already been to the one down the road probably) then to test them and find they're positive for all kinds of benzos, opiates, etc...Nothing I can do about it, but just like an alcoholic may bar hop, they ER hop..
    ( I know this may be a little off topic, but it goes with abuse of the system I think)
  7. by   rph3664
    Quote from ThrowEdNurse
    Also, making no attempt to pay your health care bills should be a felony.
    I know of a married couple who are not allowed to own property for 10 years because of unpaid medical bills, and I suspect this is why.

    As for women coming to the ER for a pregnancy test, I've said this before but I wonder if some of them do this because they think they can get an abortion at the ER.
  8. by   OMGWhatIsThatSmell
    Quote from shelynche
    Mosquito bites, spider bites, spinach scares.....what about the BATS!! One person comes in with a possible bat bite, the newspaper runs a story about a bat that bit someone and was caught (the bat, not the person..lol) and tested positive for rabies and OMG.....how many jumped on that bandwagon! And....how many got treated and probably never did their follow-up...why, you might ask? Well, since you asked, I'll tell you...because we are a NOT FOR PROFIT hospital and we turn down no one. We are the only hospital in town and we get it all. I wonder how many of our non-paying customers even batted an eye at the thousands of dollars we spent on all those treatments. The hospital is so "customer satisfaction" oriented, until they developed a protocol. Since bat bites may not be visible due to the miniscule size of the bite, if someone feels that they may have been bitten by a bat, they automatically get the 2-step treatment. grrrrrrrr... there goes my raise..
    any thoughts on this?
    I heard of a man who killed a bat and was looking at the dead bat poking around its mouth and stuff. The bat had rabies and the man got rabies just from the saliva and no bite.
  9. by   inteRN
    Quote from Nurse Ratched
    OK - dumb question - I understand that you can't refuse to treat someone in the emergency room. Can you refuse to see an obvious non-emergency like the hangnail?
    You technically cant refuse to treat it..but then again, how do you?? Most hopspitals may want money up front for stupid crap like that though.
  10. by   OMGWhatIsThatSmell
    Quote from sharpeimom
    bras (new ones) are available through the salvation army, associated charaties, many woman's charities,
    just to name a few places. sources like the the welfare board, food pantries have lists of who in a given area handles such clothing issues. if this mystery patient's only bra had had to be cut off in many hospitals, they would have had resources for her to visit.

    as a previous poster pointed out, having to request a new bra was a nonissue, compared to having a potentially life-threatening problem go untreated.

    people get upset over oddball things frequently, but what they rant, rave and complain about usually isn't what they're really bent out of shape over.

    kathy
    shar pei mom
    i know it isn't you that posted the offensive comment but nevertheless...

    i was a paramedic before i was a rn and i have cut clothes off of trauma victims. i get that. but why would a nurse think cutting a patients only bra off would be funny and post that in this thread?

    several months ago i had to go to the ed and radiology was wheeling my stretcher to take some xrays and my shoes fell off the stretcher and they even ran over one of them and if i had not protested they would have left my shoes lying in the hallway. i guess they thought the rn would pick them up? i dunno.
  11. by   morte
    Quote from OMGWhatIsThatSmell
    I know it isn't you that posted the offensive comment but nevertheless...

    I was a paramedic before I was a RN and I have cut clothes off of trauma victims. I get that. But why would a nurse think cutting a patients only bra off would be FUNNY and post that in this thread?

    Several months ago I had to go to the ED and radiology was wheeling my stretcher to take some xrays and my shoes fell off the stretcher and they even ran over one of them and if I had not protested they would have left my shoes lying in the hallway. I guess they thought the RN would pick them up? I dunno.
    i think you are mis understanding this thread....it is a vent thread.....the person who posted about cutting off the bra wasnt laughing at the cutting, but more nearly "shaking her head" at the thought it was more important than the patients life....
  12. by   sharpeimom
    Quote from sharpei mom
    bras (new ones) are available through the salvation army, associated charities, many woman's charities,
    just to name a few places. sources like the the welfare board, food pantries have lists of who in a given area handles such clothing issues. if this mystery patients only bra had had to be cut off in many hospitals, they would have had resources for her to visit.

    as a previous poster pointed out, having to request a new bra was a non issue, compared to having a potentially life-threatening problem go untreated.

    people get upset over oddball things frequently, but what they rant, rave and complain about usually isn't what they're really bent out of shape over.

    kathy
    shar pei mom
    Quote from omg whatsthatsmell
    i know it isn't you that posted the offensive comment but nevertheless...

    i was a paramedic before i was a rn and i have cut clothes off of trauma victims. i get that. but why would a nurse think cutting a patients only bra off would be funny and post that in this thread?

    several months ago i had to go to the ed and radiology was wheeling my stretcher to take some x rays and my shoes fell off the stretcher and they even ran over one of them and if i had not protested they would have left my shoes lying in the hallway. i guess they thought the rn would pick them up? i dunno.
    just curious omg, if you knew that i am not the person who posted the allegedly offensive comment,
    why, pray tell, did you direct your ill feelings toward me? i was merely stating my opinion on a public forum and basing it on facts gained through personal observation, experience and sitting on many agency
    advisory boards. no one on here who read the thread thought the bra cutting was "funny" but the consensus was simply that patients sometimes don't realize that sometimes saving a life becomes more important than an article of clothing. the patient's bra was in a different category than your shoe. the person who ran over your shoe was a jerk while the bra cutter was merely doing his/her job.

    Quote from morte
    i think you are misunderstanding this thread....it is a vent thread.....the person who posted about cutting off the bra wasn't laughing at the cutting, but more nearly "shaking her head" at the thought it was more important than the patients life....
    thank you, morte! if we didn't all share our experiences and vent sometimes, we'd all either be in little rubber rooms (without our bras) or explode...

    omg, please stick around and get to know us better because we're not a bad bunch.

    kathy
    shar pei mom
  13. by   Fribblet
    I took care of a woman who called EMS after having a "really bad nightmare."

    After talking to her a bit while I did my assessment, I discovered that she was having a lot of anxiety issues related to her "moving out of my apartment." But, just for a bit of perspective, she wasn't having financial issues, wasn't having to move to a bad neighborhood, wasn't moving out of state, just making your average, everyday, move from one apartment to another.

    We gave her some PO ativan and sent her back to home to continue packing.

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