Quote from tiltgirl
I work in california, have worked in the same facility for 3 years, have never been written up for a med error or been disciplined for my work ethic in the er. I received a phone call today from my manger stating that the verbal order from the pa for 1 mg of dilaudid was not signed by the pa and that the pa stated that the verbal order was never given to me and the pa filed a formal complaint against me stating that i was acting as a md and was called to have a formal hearing with my union rep about my job. I not only got the verbal order from the pa but also confirmed with the md....who i am hoping recalls and will sign the order off........the comment made to me was that the pt already received 8 of morphine.....which did not relieve the pt's pain.......and s/p xrays was vocal and crying s/p a motorcycle accident with a r/o fx to the left ankle. Pt had a hematoma from the ankle to the shin and a previous ankle fx. It was approx. 45 mins to an hour.....before the dose of dilaudid. It is standard practice in the er that we take verbal orders.....as we have 1 or 2 md's on and maybe a pa......at any given time and on nights we have one md only. I would never act out of malice or give a pt any medication if i did not think i had an order. My job is on the line here.....i need thoughts and prayers please......
I am sooooo sorry this happened to you.
You need to check you facilities policy and see what EXACTLY it says, and notify your malpractice insurance
immediately. Just because it is "standard practice" doesn't mean it falls within the policy. There have also been recent changes from The Joint Commission and CMS have issued new guidelines that have stricter regs for authentication of orders within 48 hours.MedLaw.com :: CMS Verbal Order Rule Effective January 26
Authentication of verbal orders. This regulation requires that all orders, including verbal orders, must be dated, timed, and authenticated by the prescribing practitioner with a temporary exception. For a five-year period beginning with the date of publication of the final rule, the regulation requires that all orders, including verbal orders, must be dated, timed, and authenticated promptly by the prescribing practitioner or another practitioner responsible for the care of the patient, even if the order did not originate with him or her.
It is clear this PA is throwing you under the bus. There may also be State law specifying the time frame for authentication of verbal orders need to be authenticated within a certain time frame etc.
I have worked in the ED for a long time in a couple of states and several ED's and they all have had a NO VERBAL ORDER policy......even when it is not enforced.......except in "emergent" situations due to occurrences just like this one....and worse. I have actually seen great nurses fired because of verbal orders whether or not there is a no verbal order policy. A common verbal order policy states that verbal orders may be given only if the patients life depends upon the order and during resuscitative situations and must be authenticated within 24 hours.
That you belong to a union may help you....I knew a really good nurse this happened to....the union stood behind her for even though there was a no verbal order policy, unless it was an emergency, it was standard operating procedure and standard of care.....she still got fired by the facility but the Union sued for wrongful termination and won. "Everybody does it" and "I had no idea there was a policy" won't save you and I have seen many doc's that I trusted and adored turn into sniveling lap dogs for when it comes between them being in trouble or you.....guess who is talking the fall.
I know that there are behaviors that occur within the ED that are "usual and customary" and not necessarily within policy and procedure like verbal orders......everybody does this won't protect you . I would avoid this with his uhmmmm
"provider" at all costs. I would hand him the chart to him and be sure to tell him that you are happy
to follow any of his orders.........AFTER
he has written them properly on the chart so that there can be NO miscommunication like that one time.......smile sweetly and hand him the chart for him to write them
....... because if the patient isn't coding...he can write them.....if he is in a code......most things can wait a few min so he can write them.
I am so sorry this happened I wish you the best.