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No. 20
Old Aug 14, 2009, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HaikuCatLady View Post
Honestly, it doesn't really bother me. There will always be people like that and they exist in every country in the world. There is nothing that I or anybody else can do about it. It would be wrong to deny them healthcare, just like it would be wrong to deny anybody healthcare. Most people want to work and better themselves as a matter of personal pride, including myself. So I'm not going to waste my energy getting worked up over the few freeloaders.
Right ON.
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No. 21
Old Aug 14, 2009, 11:20 PM

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It is also a "right" to eat, drink, and have a house. Should the gov provide that as well? It isn't good for a person to get too much for free. It ruins the desire to work and forms a feeling of entitlement. I am not saying that everyone being discussed on this thread in this category, but enough do that it is a problem. Those who are willing to do their part may need help, but not the freeloaders.
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No. 22
Old Aug 14, 2009, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CPhT2RNstudent View Post
It is also a "right" to eat, drink, and have a house.
Those are needs, not rights, and proper health is also a need.
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No. 23
Old Aug 14, 2009, 11:58 PM

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"A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away."
-- Barry Goldwater
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No. 24
Old Aug 15, 2009, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Nurse_Hagatha View Post
"A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away."
-- Barry Goldwater
You think they'll give me a pony? I asked my parents for years for one...
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No. 25
from WhoaNelly
Old Aug 15, 2009, 12:12 AM

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Well, when there is so much talk about rationing healthcare, even potentially initiating a "duty to die" for our elderly, I have a bigtime problem with the baby-making machines. No, we need to attack our population/demand problem from the other end: Let the baby-making machines have one child, two at the very most - then, it's automatic sterilization right after the birth of the second child.

I know that sounds a bit Nazi-like, but I think it's much more practical than hastening the deaths of our elderly.
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No. 26
from fuzzywuzzy
Old Aug 15, 2009, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CPhT2RNstudent View Post
It is also a "right" to eat, drink, and have a house. Should the gov provide that as well? It isn't good for a person to get too much for free. It ruins the desire to work and forms a feeling of entitlement. I am not saying that everyone being discussed on this thread in this category, but enough do that it is a problem. Those who are willing to do their part may need help, but not the freeloaders.
If anyone has a "feeling of entitlement" right now, it's you! Look at the tone of your post and how you referred to basic human rights/needs in quotation marks. I'm guessing you HAVE health insurance. Are you going to school full time and working full time to keep a roof over your head or are you getting help and support from a parent or spouse? If so then you don't have much room to resent people for getting public assistance. A lot of posters on this thread seem to think that they're better or more deserving than other people and I don't know where that's coming from.

I know there are people who don't care, who take advantage of the system. But if not for that, they'd find some other way to act like scumbags. And you are going to have to pay taxes no matter what- if they take Medicaid away it's not like they're gonna give the extra money back to you so you can get your flat screen TV or trip to Hawaii... they'll just take it and spend it on something sketchy.
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No. 27
from fuzzywuzzy
Old Aug 15, 2009, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by WhoaNelly View Post
Well, when there is so much talk about rationing healthcare, even potentially initiating a "duty to die" for our elderly, I have a bigtime problem with the baby-making machines. No, we need to attack our population/demand problem from the other end: Let the baby-making machines have one child, two at the very most - then, it's automatic sterilization right after the birth of the second child.

I know that sounds a bit Nazi-like, but I think it's much more practical than hastening the deaths of our elderly.
Are you serious? No one is trying to hasten the deaths of the elderly. I can't believe people have managed to equate advanced directives with murder.

And yeah, forced sterilization is completely out of line.
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No. 28
from Dalzac
Old Aug 15, 2009, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by CPhT2RNstudent View Post
That is why I went to school. So I wouldn't have to live that way. Anyone can go to school and better their life.



Man That was harsh! I went to school and I still had to beg for any kind of help for 4 years.
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No. 29
from mwboswell
Old Aug 15, 2009, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by applescruffette View Post
No, not "anyone" can go to school. Not everyone is capable of learning or performing well at that level. Even if everyone goes to college, someone's still got to scrub toilets, make minimum wage, and get hosed on healthcare.
I'm sorry; why can't "anyone" go to school?
The government provides education for these folks right?
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