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from oramar
Old Aug 14, 2009, 05:56 PM

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The really sad thing is that the majority of people who don't have insurance are people that get out of bed and go to work everyday. Many of them have two or three low paying jobs with no insurance. However, by the time they pay for food, clothing, housing and all the other necessities of life they are left with very little to cover health care. I take that back, it is not sad it is a tragedy.
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No. 11
from rnbsn17
Old Aug 14, 2009, 07:07 PM

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Amen! My Mother has Alzheimer's, lives in a very nice lock-down facility. However, her money is running out and Medicaid only allows $2000.00 per month and $40.00 spending money. In addition, there are a limited amount of Alz/Medicaid beds available. The institutions that offer these beds are next to nothing. A 6x6 ft. room, a hospital bed and a small dresser at the cost of >$5000.00 per month. So, if your bank account goes over the $2000.00 limit in any given month, the person is charged the FULL amount until you get below the $2000.00 limit!!!! My Mother worked hard all her life to be reduced to Welfare.....where is the justice in this???? I bet the President, Senator's and Congress men and women's Mother's and Father's don't have to live like this and their POA's don't have to wonder where they may end up!!!!! Sorry to go on and on but I feel you guys would understand. Thank you for listening.
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No. 12
Old Aug 14, 2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by oramar View Post
The really sad thing is that the majority of people who don't have insurance are people that get out of bed and go to work everyday. Many of them have two or three low paying jobs with no insurance. However, by the time they pay for food, clothing, housing and all the other necessities of life they are left with very little to cover health care. I take that back, it is not sad it is a tragedy.
That is why I went to school. So I wouldn't have to live that way. Anyone can go to school and better their life.
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No. 13
from beejaycee
Old Aug 14, 2009, 07:54 PM

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rickkijo, I see that there is a Canadian flag after your name. Are you from Canada? Do you have experience with that health care system?
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No. 14
Old Aug 14, 2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzzywuzzy View Post
It's annoying when people take advantage of the system, but it's more annoying hearing people whine and complain about how "their" money pays for it. It's tax money. It's not YOUR money. It goes towards a lot of different things, good and bad. If it wasn't going towards healthcare (for both those who "deserve" it and those who don't), it would be paying for something else. No need to take it so personally.
I respectfully disagree. It IS my money. If I did not work my tail off, they would not get it from me.
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No. 15
from StNeotser
Old Aug 14, 2009, 08:56 PM

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I find it awfully sad when people who are one step above being in the poverty trap themselves find it necessary to blame the people one step below.

I find it sad when they don't realize what corporate welfare is and how much money from their taxes are going to rich corporations.

I find it sad when I'm sure the recipients of corporate welfare must be laughing at all the peasants fighting amongst themselves.
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No. 16
Old Aug 14, 2009, 09:19 PM

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That is why I went to school. So I wouldn't have to live that way. Anyone can go to school and better their life.
No, not "anyone" can go to school. Not everyone is capable of learning or performing well at that level. Even if everyone goes to college, someone's still got to scrub toilets, make minimum wage, and get hosed on healthcare.
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No. 17
Old Aug 14, 2009, 09:47 PM

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If there were more primary care providers, particularly primary care providers who accept Medicaid, there wouldn't be as many people who were forced into the ER for non-emergencies.

But, quite frankly, I'm a little sick of the classism in this forum. How do you know if these patients have never worked a day in their lives or what their situation is? It's not your job to judge them; give them their care like everyone else, keep calm, carry on. . .You might find yourself jobless someday and on public assistance with some snotty nurse turning their nose up at you.
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No. 18
Old Aug 14, 2009, 09:55 PM

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Honestly, it doesn't really bother me. There will always be people like that and they exist in every country in the world. There is nothing that I or anybody else can do about it. It would be wrong to deny them healthcare, just like it would be wrong to deny anybody healthcare. Most people want to work and better themselves as a matter of personal pride, including myself. So I'm not going to waste my energy getting worked up over the few freeloaders.
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No. 19
Old Aug 14, 2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by r0b0tafflicti0n View Post
If there were more primary care providers, particularly primary care providers who accept Medicaid, there wouldn't be as many people who were forced into the ER for non-emergencies.

But, quite frankly, I'm a little sick of the classism in this forum. How do you know if these patients have never worked a day in their lives or what their situation is? It's not your job to judge them; give them their care like everyone else, keep calm, carry on. . .You might find yourself jobless someday and on public assistance with some snotty nurse turning their nose up at you.
The whiners should spend some time in the free clinic I volunteered at a few months ago. There were patients there who would work 40 hours a week at Wendy's and barely have time to get to their job working 20 hours a week waitressing after the Wendy's job. Then they'd come into the once-weekly free clinic with either a nasty sinus infection that started just after last week's free clinic or right arm weakness of several days' duration, but they could not afford the doctor's visit. There were a whole lot of people who came in that clinic that worked harder and longer than those bellyaching about the "freeloaders."
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