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No. 10
from MikeyBSN
Old Oct 20, 2009, 07:55 PM

Default Re: RN experience prior to ER triage?
Although I agree that there is probably some minimum experience requirement for triage, I would put the emphasis on competence over experience. I have worked with some very competent nurses who have only been RNs for one or two years (but most have medical backgrounds or where paramedics). At the same time, I have worked with nurses who have been RNs far longer than me and let's just say that triage is obviously not their forte'. My facility actually has a test you need to take before you're allowed to be in triage.
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No. 11
from MikeyBSN
Old Oct 20, 2009, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by EmergencyNrse View Post
A good facility will require you to have some experience plus have a preceptor program to ease you into the role.

That being said I know of MANY hospitals that throw the new grads out front with no experience and a triage algorithm to dictate acuity. So if you're a new grad in the hot seat.....Gooooood luuuuck!
These centers set the tone for the entire department because you get patients mis-categorized all the time. Everyone is frustrated and it becomes dangerous.

Sending the patient to FastTrack or Quick-Care with just "swollen feet" that is.... um, status-post 5 vessel CABG day 3 is inappropriate.
I just had a patient the other day who had lower extremity edema, chest pain, nausea and hypertension. Although she was relatively young, she had been traveling a lot over the past few months. The triage nurse, who probably has about 15 years on me in nursing, triaged her as a "5" and sent her to fast track! Of course, FT booted her once they examined her and sent her to the main ER. I think she was an RN or resident or something because she knew what she was talking about and she was rightfully very upset.

In four years I have only "written up" another nurse once, and the situation stemmed from a grossly inappropriate triage. It involved a young patient with a serious medical condition who was hemodynamically unstable. She was triaged as a "4" and waited five hours before any type of medical intervention.
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No. 12
from LunahRN
Old Oct 20, 2009, 09:20 PM

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I had a patient who went to the ICU from fast track recently ... not that we truly have a designated "fast track," but we have a set of rooms that we usually use for low acuity stuff. This guy had a cough, so he got a mask (like he had the flu) and got put into our isolation room. Ummmm ... the lungs full of rales, swollen ankles, rapid a-fib and O2 sat of 85% were probably the biggest problems, combined with the pneumonia. Ya think?! How I love starting multiple lines and hanging Cardizem and Levaquin in Ye Olde Faste Tracke. Ha ha.
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No. 13
from MikeyBSN
Old Oct 20, 2009, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LunahRN View Post
I had a patient who went to the ICU from fast track recently ... not that we truly have a designated "fast track," but we have a set of rooms that we usually use for low acuity stuff. This guy had a cough, so he got a mask (like he had the flu) and got put into our isolation room. Ummmm ... the lungs full of rales, swollen ankles, rapid a-fib and O2 sat of 85% were probably the biggest problems, combined with the pneumonia. Ya think?! How I love starting multiple lines and hanging Cardizem and Levaquin in Ye Olde Faste Tracke. Ha ha.
One of our nurses triaged an ST elevation MI to fast track. To be fair, his complaint was "back pain", he looked good for having an MI and his VS were normal. However, I think that a more intense triage investigation would have determined that the symptoms were cardiac in nature.
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No. 14
from LunahRN
Old Oct 20, 2009, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeyBSN View Post
One of our nurses triaged an ST elevation MI to fast track. To be fair, his complaint was "back pain", he looked good for having an MI and his VS were normal. However, I think that a more intense triage investigation would have determined that the symptoms were cardiac in nature.
Yikes! Nothing like calling the chopper from fast track ... which I did not long ago, for an intracranial bleed. Sometimes there is nothing fast track about our fast track!
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No. 15
from back2bRN
Old Nov 09, 2009, 11:00 AM

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A good triage nurse makes it look easy, so everyone thinks they can do it. The fact is you should have experience and should have experienced the results of bad calls... I have worked many places, and some you were thrown right in with a 5 minute "this is how things are done", other places you have to be there for 2-3 years and take a 2 day course. Up in Canada not much consistency with the area of triage(re: training and experience) which imo is a specialty. You make a bad call, someones' life is never the same, you make a good call, you hear nothing ..You have to get the most amount of accurate info in the shortest amt of time....truly a challenge.
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No. 16
from Larry77
Old Nov 09, 2009, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bigreddog1934 View Post
In my last job it was about two years before they started inching you into triage. Then you would be part of two nurses for a bit until you were the sole triage RN. There was also a class on triage you took before heading out there.
This is the same policy we have...of course there are some RN's that have been there 3-4 years and have not been asked to go to triage...not everyone has the skill set for such a challenging assignment.
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No. 17
from LilgirlRN
Old Nov 10, 2009, 12:48 AM

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Yes, there catastrophes from being triaged with the wrong diagnosis in mind. When I got to work today there was a guy in one of our "clinic" rooms, meaning he was thought not to be very sick. He was admitted to ICU, dx AAA. His chief complaint was back pain, 70 something.
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No. 18
from rn/writer
Old Nov 10, 2009, 12:56 AM

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The only nurses that I would want triaging after a mere three months would be former combat medics or high-volume paramedics with lots of experience under their belts before getting their RN degrees.
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