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No. 10
from Altra
Old Nov 08, 2009, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeyBSN View Post
No helmet, although he was supposed to have a helmet by law. Oh, and the Vitals were WNL for his age range.
Then neuro exam, observation, lecture to kiddo & parents by injury prevention nurse (me), and discharge.
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No. 11
from PAERRN20
Old Nov 08, 2009, 09:22 PM

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I'd say #3. We would do Xrays if the kid was c/o pain in the legs or arms. Probably do a CT of the head just to cover our a$$es. Maybe a line depending on the doc. It is all about covering the behind. If this were my kid I probably wouldn't have even presented to the ED.
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No. 12
from chelynn
Old Nov 08, 2009, 09:50 PM

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I would go with answer number 1 also. It's the least evasive tx and most appropriate for information given.
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No. 13
from ACRN06
Old Nov 08, 2009, 09:56 PM

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#1 all the way

Many studies suggest the increase in thyroid cancer could be partly due to pediatricians’ increased use of CT-scans. If it were my asymptomatic kid, theres no way in heck I'd let them CT him.
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No. 14
from bjaeram
Old Nov 08, 2009, 09:56 PM

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1. correct answer
3. CYA answer

Depends on the doc.
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No. 15
from Virgo_RN
Old Nov 09, 2009, 04:02 AM

Default Re: Kid fell off bike: what would you anticipate?
Originally Posted by bjaeram View Post
1. correct answer
3. CYA answer

Depends on the doc.
That.
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No. 16
Old Nov 09, 2009, 05:26 AM

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sometimes i wonder why they make questions like that. We can just anticipate not order
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No. 17
from belle87
Old Nov 09, 2009, 08:06 AM

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I work in the ED and I do agree it's up to the doc really. We have docs that would just do the basics and docs that will give them an entire work up "just in case". I will venture to say that the answer is a combination of option 1 and option 2. The docs will want an x-ray to r/o any possible fracture, then observe him for a few hours then send him home if all seems fine with his neuro. assessment. But there are a lot of times, the docs order a head CT to be on the safe side, since it shows soft tissue, so option is a possibility though we wouldn't start an IV until we knew it was necessary.
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No. 18
from bamadebRN
Old Nov 09, 2009, 07:26 PM

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At the ED where I work it would depend on which doctor is working. The majority are major CYA docs and would do a combination of #1 and #3 - neuro exam, IV, head CT, observation, and discharge with verbal and written instructions. But there are a few who would opt for just #1.
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No. 19
from MikeyBSN
Old Nov 09, 2009, 07:46 PM

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Well, I think number one is clearly the correct answer, although I think some docs might opt for number 2. Head CTs cause 3000 X the amount of radiation as an x-ray and have been shown to greatly increase cancer in children. The kid had a very unimpressive story. However, this was an actual case I had. I was working with a great pediatric ED doctor who was also a peds intensivist. The kid showed up with the above story. After some observation the doc was literally walking over to get discharge instructions when the kid vomited on the floor. So he said, "Okay we should probably do the CT now." Can you believe this kid had a skull fracture and a bleed! I could not believe it, like another nurse said, I probably would not have even taken my kid to the ED for this (until he vomited). The bleed was small, but still, I've never seen one with such an unimpressive story and clinical findings.
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