Is this common? The new face of the ED - page 2

I have worked in the ED for 4 years. Anyone who works in an ED knows the current situation with ED care. Too many patients (esp with non-urgent complaints) and we are incredibly understaffed. The... Read More

  1. Visit  SENSUALBLISSINFL profile page
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    Quote from thelema13
    I feel your pain. No raises here either, for 3 years (about to be 4) even though we were nationally recognized in Consumer Reports and US News, ranked in the top 20's in the state of Florida. We got cupcakes as a thank you. And no, we don't get our 30 minute break either.

    The only way I can get a raise, is by graduating grad school. What a shame.
    Where in Florida are you? Mind sharing the hospital? I
    I am in Florida.
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  3. Visit  GM2RN profile page
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    Quote from redhead_NURSE98!
    I don't work in the ED, so I don't know what it should be like, but I just wanted to say that if you're not getting an unpaid 1/2 hour lunch and two paid 15 minute breaks, REFUSE to clock out for lunch. That's illegal if you are paid hourly, and the reason that they continue to treat us that way is because we tolerate it. I'm tired of it. If I clock out for a lunch and I don't get my full one-hour throughout a 12 HOUR DAY I edit my time sheet so they can pay me for my "lunch" (during which I usually get interrupted with work stuff anyway.) I DARE anyone to call me on it, and they never have.

    I have worked in the ED almost 4 years and there are many times that I don't get any breaks let alone 30 miutes for lunch. We aren't required to clock out for lunch; the time is automatically deducted and you have to remember to write it in a time book to get paid if you don't get your lunch. Even if I am getting paid when I don't get to take time for lunch, I would rather have the much needed break than the extra few dollars.
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  4. Visit  GM2RN profile page
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    Quote from billyboblewis
    Sorry ER nurses. I have worked off and on in ER for many years and it is a much lighter job than working the floors. I am sure there are many times you get plenty of time to eat and someone goes out and picks food up. No one in the nursing field is getting giant raises. Is there some reason you think ER would be singled out?
    Now as a patient on occasion in the ER I can say that I have found nurses and Doctors to be on the lazy side and very disrespectful to patients when they dont see blood and guts or compound fractures or chest pain. So I have a headache and it doesnt go away. The pain is what made me go to er in the middle of the night not an urge to get narcotics. I dont have to hear an RN say you just ran out of your prescription. It is really sad that you can go to an urgent care and get better treatment of staff with less training. So to make things clear I almost lost my life because nurses and doctors in the local er did not diagnose my subdural hematoma with all the standard symptoms and history.. ER people get your act together and treat all patients well.


    This post is laughable and appears to be written to incite. That's all I can say and remain civil.
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  5. Visit  billyboblewis profile page
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    not to incite. It is the truth.
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  6. Visit  Susie2310 profile page
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    Quote from billyboblewis
    Sorry ER nurses. I have worked off and on in ER for many years and it is a much lighter job than working the floors. I am sure there are many times you get plenty of time to eat and someone goes out and picks food up. No one in the nursing field is getting giant raises. Is there some reason you think ER would be singled out?
    Now as a patient on occasion in the ER I can say that I have found nurses and Doctors to be on the lazy side and very disrespectful to patients when they dont see blood and guts or compound fractures or chest pain. So I have a headache and it doesnt go away. The pain is what made me go to er in the middle of the night not an urge to get narcotics. I dont have to hear an RN say you just ran out of your prescription. It is really sad that you can go to an urgent care and get better treatment of staff with less training. So to make things clear I almost lost my life because nurses and doctors in the local er did not diagnose my subdural hematoma with all the standard symptoms and history.. ER people get your act together and treat all patients well.
    billyboblewis, I had to write to tell you that when I read your post I smiled and shook my head in sympathy with you. I had a similar experience as a patient in the ER (I am an RN), and to this day I'm not sure if the doctor was looking at me with an expression of disappointment or disgust, but he did treat me with what I considered to be disdain. I waited for a long time in a virtually empty waiting room while the nurse who appeared in the triage area from time to time studiously avoided making eye contact with me. And yes, my history and symptoms were significant. Why shouldn't nurses be able to express their negative experiences of being patients or family members?
    Last edit by Susie2310 on Aug 22, '12
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  7. Visit  GM2RN profile page
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    Quote from Susie2310
    billyboblewis, I had to write to tell you that when I read your post I smiled and shook my head in sympathy with you. I had a similar experience as a patient in the ER (I am an RN), and to this day I'm not sure if the doctor was looking at me with an expression of disappointment or disgust, but he did treat me with what I considered to be disdain. I waited for a long time in a virtually empty waiting room while the nurse who appeared in the triage area from time to time studiously avoided making eye contact with me. And yes, my history and symptoms were significant. I am sorry some nurses on this forum seem to find it so offensive when nurses complain about receiving poor care, and seek to label the nurses complaining as wishing to cause trouble. Why shouldn't nurses be able to express their experiences of being patients?

    It's not the espressing of experiences that I take issue with; it's the way it's expressed.

    Thinking people understand that one nurse's/person's (assuming that billybob is a nurse since nothing in his (presumably) profile identifies his profession) experience does not constitute reality for the entire profession/patient population.

    To make blanket statements that imply that all ERs are light duty, that we often get plenty of time to eat and can even send someone out for food, and that all ED docs and nurses are lazy is just plain ignorant, even if that is one person's experience "on occasion."
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  8. Visit  billyboblewis profile page
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    thanks and I really complain more for the patients who are not nurses who dont get proper treatment because they are viewed as drug seekers or other prejudices of er personnel. I do love working in er or any other discipline.I have been in pt care since 1967 and thru good and bad I cannot imagine doing anything else
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  9. Visit  billyboblewis profile page
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    o btw I am an RN and have been for the last 36 years of my career. I have worked in all types and sizes of hospitals and will tell you that the majority of er nurses are fantastic and I believe the ones complaining may be a very small minority!
  10. Visit  redhead_NURSE98! profile page
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    Quote from GM2RN
    I have worked in the ED almost 4 years and there are many times that I don't get any breaks let alone 30 miutes for lunch. We aren't required to clock out for lunch; the time is automatically deducted and you have to remember to write it in a time book to get paid if you don't get your lunch. Even if I am getting paid when I don't get to take time for lunch, I would rather have the much needed break than the extra few dollars.
    Yep me too, I'd love to have the breaks; however if I don't get to sit down uninterrupted for 30 minutes and eat, I write the edit.
  11. Visit  barryme profile page
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    Quote from billyboblewis
    Sorry ER nurses. I have worked off and on in ER for many years and it is a much lighter job than working the floors. I am sure there are many times you get plenty of time to eat and someone goes out and picks food up. No one in the nursing field is getting giant raises. Is there some reason you think ER would be singled out?
    Now as a patient on occasion in the ER I can say that I have found nurses and Doctors to be on the lazy side and very disrespectful to patients when they dont see blood and guts or compound fractures or chest pain. So I have a headache and it doesnt go away. The pain is what made me go to er in the middle of the night not an urge to get narcotics. I dont have to hear an RN say you just ran out of your prescription. It is really sad that you can go to an urgent care and get better treatment of staff with less training. So to make things clear I almost lost my life because nurses and doctors in the local er did not diagnose my subdural hematoma with all the standard symptoms and history.. ER people get your act together and treat all patients well.

    Well shucks, sign me up for this amazing ER with the light workload and people going out to buy lunches for everyone's 30 minute breaks! Why am I suffering through saving lives when I could be doing that?
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  12. Visit  GM2RN profile page
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    Quote from billyboblewis
    o btw I am an RN and have been for the last 36 years of my career. I have worked in all types and sizes of hospitals and will tell you that the majority of er nurses are fantastic and I believe the ones complaining may be a very small minority!

    You have the right to your opinion, but that doesn't make your opinion right!
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  13. Visit  Dragonnurse1 profile page
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    Quote from billyboblewis
    Sorry ER nurses.
    As with many units there are problem nurses but that is no reason to generalize. I assure you that I have been on both ends in my own ER, both as RN and patient, and it can be difficult. I do not know the size of your city but here on an average night 100+ patients in 8 hours was average. I would make it a point to do patient education every time I went into a room. I cannot tell you how many times I arrived at work to find that we were 20 to 30 charts behind overflowing from evenings. I am truly sorry that your subdural was missed, that is why I really liked having treatment protocols in place. Once a RN started a protocol the flow had to be completed - the Doc on that night could not short-cut the path.

    ER's will always be treated as if it is a clinic by many patients and that abuse of the system will have unintended consequences for the truly sick or emergent patients. The ability of the hospital to cover any shortage of nurses in an ER that gets slammed would be not only helpful but it would be safer. Safer for the patients, safer for the nurses but it means the costs of care go up and management is all about keeping the costs down. But despite all the negatives I would have never left the ER - I never burned out but I knew nurses that did and I was glad to see them go.

    (And Yes I am allergic to latex, severely allergic - anaphylaxis level and I cannot have Epi so avoidance is my best option. A hospital can go "latex free" but that does not make it safe for the severely allergic. Short of demolishing the existing buildings and rebuilding with no latex containing products the buildings are already contaminated and therefore unsafe. I have not been to a movie since 2005, cannot go out to eat at a dine in restaurant, cannot buy new furniture, cannot find a safe bathing suit, (just to name a few obstacles) and shopping is a nightmare as my battery for my filter system only lasts for 2 hours and people tend to stare and make rude comments. I am on Social Security disability as a result.)
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  14. Visit  mariposa311 profile page
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    Our ER is latex free.


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