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No. 10
from LunahRN
Old Aug 23, 2009, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Larry77 View Post
the EMT put his hand on my shoulder and said in a condescending tone, "Are you having a bad day Larry?"...OMG I wanted to deck him.
LOL! Sounds like the movie "Office Space" -- "Sounds like somebody's got a case of the Mondays!" HA! That would have pushed me right over the edge.

Very rarely does a medic unit fail to call. Every now and then when we get a unit from the next county bringing someone in on mutual aid, they don't call us. We try to keep an eye on the CAD in the nurses station when we can so we don't get an unpleasant surprise! Recently dispatch gave a medic unit a phone patch to the wrong ED, so they showed up unannounced ... couldn't blame them, though! They thought they called.
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No. 11
from RN0520
Old Aug 24, 2009, 03:06 AM

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This happens to us all too often. EMS will bring in inappropriate patients to our 12 bed ER. They will call report when they are on our grounds knowing that we can't divert at that point. For example, a mva that clearly should have gone to one of the level 2 trauma centers in town or chest pain that should have gone to one of the 3 hospitals in town that have cath labs. I make it known to them that it is unacceptable to bring patients in without a heads up. It happened yesterday and they said they tried to call. As it turns out their radio wasn't working properly, this was 3 hours into their shift. I don't think it is safe for the patient if they are not taken to the most appropriated hospital. They will get burned one day and it will be the patient that suffers.
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No. 12
from canoehead
Old Aug 26, 2009, 12:47 PM

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I've gotten reports as they were pulling in...I don't much care so long as we get about 30 seconds to think before they show up. I want to have a room cleared before they roll in, and if it's a sick person we'll pull equipment and people to the bedside. Report prevents a scramble, making us look and feel disorganized, and it prevents moving the patient to the right room, and doing a bed juggle 30 minutes after arrival.
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No. 13
from LunahRN
Old Aug 26, 2009, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by canoehead View Post
I've gotten reports as they were pulling in...
LOL! Yeah, I love it when the report ends with, "aaaaaaand ... we're at your back door."
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No. 14
Old Sep 07, 2009, 11:39 AM

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They show up unannounced all day long. We only get called on the box if the pt is critical or the medics are requesting the doc to order a med they can't give just based off protocol, like Cardizem.
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No. 15
Old Sep 07, 2009, 05:30 PM

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Very infrequently.

What gets confusing at our facility is that the city fire dept/EMS uses the fire radio, another ambulance service uses a different radio, and another two use the phone to call report. Sometimes the ones that have to call in via phone get put on hold indefinitely by someone, and they eventually just give up and hang up...But that's not their fault.

A bad part of where I work is that we have TWO nursing homes within 2 minutes of the ER, too...and lord knows we get respiratory distress calls, sat of 65%, with almost NO warning.

Every so often, we'll get an ambulance in that the crew didn't call report on, and it's almost ALWAYS one of our frequent fliers with the same bogus complaint he/she has had the last 437 times they came in by ambulance. We tend not to get too hot under the collar about it, because they usually get downloaded to triage, anyway.
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No. 16
from LeesieBug
Old Sep 10, 2009, 02:41 PM

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Had one a few days ago on a record breaking day...had a full house, 4 squads out we were trying to place, and one rolls in with a respiratory distress...."oh sorry, we forgot to call". Guy....seriously? I wanted to holller "WORK WITH ME PEOPLE!"

A few weeks ago we had one bring in a homicidal mental health we had not heard about saying, "oh, the cops said they called so we didn't think we needed to"....sigh
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No. 17
from LeesieBug
Old Sep 10, 2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike A. Fungin RN View Post
I've known critical care nurses to voice similar complaints about ED nurses who bring patients to the unit with little notice and/or incomplete reports. But y'know what, it happens man. The ED can get a little crazy and they can't always wrap my patients with a pretty bow on top. Sometimes the work environment sucks and prevents us from performing ideally. That goes for both nurses and EMTs.

In the ER the problem has little to do with caring a whole lot about the report and a LOT to do with traffic flow. I don't really give a crapolla how much notice I have on pt information/condition...I care about having a couple minutes to figure out where the heck I am going to put the patient amidst the throng of other sick people.

And yes....mistakes happen. But that does not mean it isn't frustrating when they do.
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No. 18
Old Sep 18, 2009, 11:44 PM

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Unannounced? Really? We will get a notification if they are bringing us someone really jacked up, but other than that..we don't get any " warning" before they come rolling in with a pt...
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No. 19
from sbyramRN
Old Sep 19, 2009, 04:19 AM

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I work in a Level 1, 48 bed pediatric ER and I am going to say that most of them come in without warning. Usually we get warning on the Trauma's or CPR in progress, other than that, they just come in. No big deal.
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