Exorcism in the ER......NOT - page 2

Had a pt come in the other night, female about 40 y/o. She was brought in by her husband and her pastor. She was dragged from the car by them and placed in a wheelchair, and was then intercepted and... Read More

  1. by   amy
    Sorry, I say forget about the RSI, get out an 18 NG and see how ong it takes before her "miraculous recovery". GOD I LOVE ER NURSING!!!
  2. by   teeituptom
    Howdy Yall
    From deep in the heart of texas

    You mean yall would deny her, her right to religious freedom. I remeber one time at a families insistence before they would let us take their son to the OR for appendicitis, They insisted we call and indian medicine man in to consult. We helicoptered one in from Ok, he did what was necessary and everybody was happy.
    Ps he was an odl time golfing buddy, so I knew how to find one.

    keep it in the short grass yall

    teeituptom
  3. by   kids
    What part of WA are ya in? (N/S/E/W)...

    I'm in the SW...
    Hubby is a transplanted Okie (Alfalfa County).
    Just got home from spending a weet there, catfish weren't biting for diddley.
  4. by   2ndCareerRN
    I am over in Spokane, also a transplanted okie (lawton). there are supposed to be some catfish over here, will try finding out soon.

    bob
  5. by   jmcclellanprofrn
    This one takes the cake, write it up for ER, make yourself some money. Guarentee they'll eat that crap up. In my ER, I'm sure they would have talked someone into a LP, that would have woken it right up! Eldernurse, love the story, and agree with you. For all the PC nurses, a spanking and beating are totally different, oh, wait, I forgot who I was talking to, LOL! I worked for a manager who had her whole unit exercised (she was different!) People have the right to practice or not any thing they want, as long as it does not infringe on others' rights; but please keep your demons out of ER. Thank you.
    Briefly, I had a doc tell me about a man who was dying on him scream that "my feet are burning, they're coming for me," and for him to "please help me". The man of course died but this freaked everyone out. How about you?
  6. by   Granted Fal
    i would have performed the mandatory 2 minute vigorous sternal rub, and gotten an order for a soap suds enama from the md stat!

    I'm a psych nurse becoming an ER nurse, i think the jobs coalesce well....
    anyway, i've had several "catatonic" schizophrenics on the ward that respond very well to the lenghtened sternal rub... up and walking a half hour later... it's a miracle.. hallelujuh brother....
  7. by   estrogen
    Quote from teeituptom
    Howdy Yall
    From deep in the heart of texas

    You mean yall would deny her, her right to religious freedom. I remeber one time at a families insistence before they would let us take their son to the OR for appendicitis, They insisted we call and indian medicine man in to consult. We helicoptered one in from Ok, he did what was necessary and everybody was happy.
    Ps he was an odl time golfing buddy, so I knew how to find one.

    keep it in the short grass yall

    teeituptom

    Thank you for this one! I was getting readdy to writing something like that myself.
    P.S. I'm not saying that I'm a fan to these kinds of religious practices but to each their own... and live and let live.... aaaaight?! :chuckle
    Last edit by estrogen on May 8, '05
  8. by   Liddle Noodnik
    treatment for possession?? why not arrested for possession

    kiddin - the 2 minute sternal rub on the unit cracked me up real good!

    SEE, you guys even got me tawkin foony...
  9. by   estrogen
    Quote from jmcclellanprofrn
    Briefly, I had a doc tell me about a man who was dying on him scream that "my feet are burning, they're coming for me," and for him to "please help me". The man of course died but this freaked everyone out. How about you?
    WHOA! :uhoh21:
  10. by   SARAH CONNOR
    wow. what small minds and big egos we all must have to deny others thier beliefs! i wonder what people thoughtwhen they heard about the parting of a whole sea! part a sea, kiss a snake. what ever you believe is ok with me.

    in all reality i probably would have cracked up at the whole incident as well. but generally if some one tells me they are God or the devil, i believe them until proven otherwise. how do i know they are not? could they be crazy? sure. we tend to lean to "crazy or wierd" when beliefs are different than ours.

    i worked in a place where hassidic (sorry if spelled wrong) jews put thier dead relatives on the floor after an arrest as part of thier beliefs, the amish shun thier own family members for reasons, some use medicine men ect. i guess the bottom line is what ever gets the patient better. isn't that the goal? questioning and making fun of others beliefs is why our world is in the pickle it is in. lets just co-exhist and have fun.
  11. by   HONEYBEAR
    Quote from 2ndCareerRN
    Had a pt come in the other night, female about 40 y/o. She was brought in by her husband and her pastor. She was dragged from the car by them and placed in a wheelchair, and was then intercepted and directed straight to the back. This lady was unresponsive, yet SPO2 was 99 on RA, NSR, good pressure, and a very good corneal reflex. Hmmmmm...we all said. Got a line in her, o2 on her, and then it was off to CT, which was totally normal. Drug screen was negative, all labs were normal....hmmmmmmm, we go again. As she was lying there, her hubby would grab her hand and start talking what sounded like gibberish and you could see her eyes move under her closed lids,....hmmmmmmm we go again. We did a couple of hand drops and never did her hand come close to her face,......hmmmmm we go, this is getting better and better. After a shory while (about 45 min), the pastor returned and both him and the husband started chanting together while running their hands in the air above her body.... by this time we had quit going hmmmmmmmm...just started to .
    This lady remained in an unresponsive state, and then the pastor and husband confided that she may have become possessed by a demon! I even kept a straight face when he told me that. What was the real kicker was they wanted us to call in a Catholic priest so that he could perform an exorcism on her right there in the ER, before the became so strong in her it would not be able to be exorcised.
    Well, to make a long story short, NO, we did not call a priest. We admitted her to the floor due to altered loc. The floor nurses said they kept up the vigil most of the night, except when they thought there was no one near. Then she would come out of her "trance" and talk to her hubby. Somehow, someone was able to convince a priest to come in the next day, whether he did an exorcism or not is unknown, but she had a miraculous recovery and was able to leave that evening. So the
    lost another one and the good guys once again prevailed in the fight between good and evil......I think.

    bob

    This is one the reasons I never went into psych CRAZY.......
  12. by   talaxandra
    I'm very comfortable with respecting the belief systems of different cultures, I just don't think that this qualifies.
    After all, the Catholic church itself is very reluctant to claim that people are possessed, or to perform exorcisms. So much so that I doubt you could get a priest to perform an exorcism on a newly-presenting patient with altered LOC FI.
    And if there was a pastor there I'm don't get why (given that he clearly favoured the exorcism concept) he didn't call in a favour with the archdiocese and skip a hospital admit altogether. After all, if you don't think there's a medical problem why would you present to a medical centre?
    Given that the patient recovered without an exorcism (or, from the sounds of it, any other curative treatment), I think that heaping scorn upon the idea of stanic possession, at least int his case, isn't exactly unwarranted. Positing conversion disorder or attention-seeking behaviour seem pretty accurate as well
  13. by   tvccrn
    Quote from 2ndCareerRN
    The floor nurses said they kept up the vigil most of the night, except when they thought there was no one near. Then she would come out of her "trance" and talk to her hubby. bob
    I think everyone here has missed this small but significant statment from the OP. Ya'll have been so quick to jump on the "religious freedom bandwagon" that is was overlooked that the patient wasn't really possessed. She was faking it!! She didn't have need of a religious nature, but one of a pysch nature.

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