Eat Before You Get Here! - page 7

WHY is it that as soon as people step one foot into the ER, they suddenly are overcome with hunger and thirst? Now I can understand if the patient is admitted and has been there all day and has eaten... Read More

  1. by   missmercy
    Quote from career2
    The comments were not from you but they were on this thread. There have been comments about mental illness and various forms of government assistance.

    Pay here is over $40/hour for an experienced RN. Thats close to a six figure salary if you work some overtime. How much money does one need even for a really hard job? My sister actually makes less than $40/hour as an MD. She seems pretty happy. She took less money to work in a clinic for poor people. Maybe you could get out of the hospital and find an RN job with better conditions.
    $40/hr?! Holy cow! Where do you live? I wannna work there!!! (This in not in an acute care facility is it? What kind of facility can pay that kind of money?) WOW!! Do I seem dumbstruck?! Sure am!!
  2. by   veteranRN
    I have to admit, I first read this thread a couple of weeks ago but last Friday I ended up in the ER with an acute attack of vertigo. As soon as I got checked in, I remembered all the things from the posts and was very conscious not to ask for food, water, or to use the bathroom. I didn't want to be known as one of "those patients".
  3. by   RNin92
    Let me just say it one more time...

    "One of Those Patients" do not care.
    They come into the ER for reasons that are ridiculous.
    They are demanding of everything but will cooperate with nothing.
    The family members who are demanding food, vouchers, free this and free that are RARELY demanding anything in the best interest of their loved one.

    If those so-called "loved ones" cared about the patient...they wouldn't bring in their children, their children's friends, their second cousin once removed, their next door neighbor, etc. to watch the show. They would bring in their loved one to receive care and let that person perhaps, I don't know, maybe get some rest!!!

    They would not scream at every tech who passes by their room for food for their children who have been "starving all day" (did they wait to come in to the ER before feeding their children their breakfast and lunch?!!?)

    They would not yell at the nurses and say "How much yelling do I have to do to get a free meal aroud here?!!? (SWEAR!)

    When my mother in law was in the ER for her acute CHF and Pulmonary Edema, my husband and I drove to the ER to be with her. She wasn't doing well. It was a critical moment for all of us. Funny enough, the thought of food was furthest from my mind. I think I would have thrown up. However, when my son showed up (he was 18 at the time) to see grandma, I left the room...walked across the street...and bought him dinner.

    I figured my son...my nickel. Call me crazy.
    I wanted the nurses and docs focusing on helping my mother in law...not feeding me for God's sake.

    I know this is long but the thing is it's the off balance "sense of entitlement" that some of these people have that blows my mind.

    You are entitled to quality care and compassion.
    You are entitled to honesty and integrity from the healthcare providers.

    Free food, meds, cab rides, etc are not part of that.
  4. by   rnmi2004
    I have so much respect for what you ER nurses do! There is a LOT of stress coming at you from all directions and I, for one, would rather see you vent on a message board with fellow nurses than hold it in & one day blow your top at work.
  5. by   IamRN
    Quote from LPN2Be2004
    I am outraged. I CANNOT believe that your ER does NOT have a meal waiting for your guests, or a McDonlad's in the waiting area! :roll
    Parkland (in Dallas) has a MCD's within the hospital
  6. by   hogan4736
    Quote from veteranRN
    I have to admit, I first read this thread a couple of weeks ago but last Friday I ended up in the ER with an acute attack of vertigo. As soon as I got checked in, I remembered all the things from the posts and was very conscious not to ask for food, water, or to use the bathroom. I didn't want to be known as one of "those patients".

    An acute attack of vertigo?


    Sorry, no food or water...And no walking to the bathroom...A urinal/bedpan, or a BSC are safer alternatives...

    Eating is one's own responsibility...

    If I wait all night for Van Halen tickets, should the concert venue give out free food while I'm in line?

    I'll call someone to bring me food. I own that responsibility, NO ONE else.
    The same goes for the ER

    sean
    Last edit by hogan4736 on Jun 2, '04
  7. by   z's playa
    Quote from IamRN
    Parkland (in Dallas) has a MCD's within the hospital
    Totally unhealthy! Did you hear of the guy that ate all MCD'S for 3 months and got liver damage? Heard it the other day. No matter how many SALADS they put on their menu, when I smell those fries, salad is the last thing I want!!!
  8. by   moia
    I have the biggest problem with visitors to the CV ICU. The surgery was arranged many months previously...this occurs at 1 am 12 hours after successful uneventful surgery... They park themselves in the waiting room and start ...can I have a blanket?...sure...can I have a pillow...if we have an extra one...it's cold out here I noticed my loved one has warm blankets can I have a few of them?...I might be able to find you one...just one? I really need two...nope just one...why? because the patients need the warm blankets...oh..you can't miss just one can you? well yes,yes I can... see...because you as a tax payer keep voting for a government that really couldn't care less about health care except two weeks before every election we have whats called a linen budget...we only get a set amount of blankets...usually barely enough..so we don't have extra.
    They leave unit with one pillow one regular blanket and one warm one *****ing all the way.
    2 am... HI!the cafeteria is closed...why yes yes it is....could I have a tray? well no no you can't...conveniently we have a 24 hour coffee shop that sells sandwiches and salads right downstairs...oh..they are too expensive...well a 24 hour McDonalds is conveniently located 2 blocks away...I don't have a car...2 blocks away...easy walking.... I have a bad back..bad hip..bad something that makes it impossible to walk 2 blocks...so can I have a tray?...no you can't..why not? because we have food available for you to purchase and once again...because the tax payers have once again voted in a government that has repeatedly lied about health care but you couldn't resist giving them one more try we have a dietary budget...we have enough money to have food available for the patients..thats it!
    I'm hungry....sorry.
    next hour...I can't sleep here...oh?... these chairs are very uncomfortable...well yes..they are chairs....where are the beds?...the beds? I need a bed to sleep on..I have a bad back,hip..whatever.... We don't have beds for family members...why not?

    Well...as an adult with a 3 month notice of the surgery we just assumed that if you needed a place to sleep you would use your bed at home or would get a hotel room.....oh.......we have hostel beds available would you like to have one of them? Okay...they cost 30/night...oh I am not going to pay for a bed...well I guess you are sleeping in a chair then.

    They won't go home and they want better service than the patient..I have had family ask for pain meds, anti anxiety drugs..refills for their BP meds....
    I have these same people call every person they have ever known, every obscure family member 20 times removed. co workers...to "come on in and see Bill he looks great " despite being handed the visitors policy that states 2 visitors per DAY.
    Then the s**t hits it when all 70 of these more than creepy hospital stalkers shows up and they are told they cannot come in...crying sobbing fights breaking out..insults for everyone..cruel heartless nasty nurses..nevermind the infection risk to the patient from being exposed to a neverending chain of small children and complete strangers.


    Then there is the family of the patient who is clinging to life by their toes...that family asks for NOTHING..in fact they have to be forced to accept anything.

    The other one...why do they get the private room? Why do they get the water jug with ice...how come she has a warm blanket?
    They haven't got even a basic amount of awareness of anyone else other than themselves to see the pain and devastation around them. All they see is someone got something they wanted.

    weirder..their loved one? usually a very nice person.
  9. by   canoehead
    Moia, you deserve a cocktail, and a nice solid bat.
  10. by   BabyRN2Be
    Quote from moia
    Then the s**t hits it when all 70 of these more than creepy hospital stalkers shows up and they are told they cannot come in...crying sobbing fights breaking out..insults for everyone..cruel heartless nasty nurses..nevermind the infection risk to the patient from being exposed to a neverending chain of small children and complete strangers..
    This reminds me of an incident which happened in the CICU waiting room when my dad had quintuple bypass surgery. This hospital had an awesome waiting room - if you could get there early enough to snag one of the recliners. This waiting area was for immediate family only, but one family's sense of immediate is not necessarily what the hospital defines as "immediate." Some family members had as many as 20 in the WR. This was insane. While I was waiting on word from my dad, this lady, who brought her 3 children (all under 5) got into a big argument with a nun who was overseeing the WR. This lady was yelling and stamping her feet because they wouldn't let her bring back the 3 kids. I remember her yelling to the nun that they were there to see their grandpa and won't they just once let 3 kids into the room at once??? Oh? Why not?! Just because my kid has a cold is no reason why he shouldn't see his dying grandpa! My sarcastic mind is thinking, "Yeah, and the rest of us want to be here instead of the beautiful park across the street because we are all fond of hospital antiseptic smells..."

    My mom, who was an RN, would always say every time we passed a huge group of family members in any hospital waiting room: "This must be the vision of the ideal family reunion in this state."
  11. by   moia
    someone please explain me to me why they bring small children into an er or icu?

    They are babies for gods sake...they don't know grampa...they can't hold their heads up by themselves yet but it's deadly serious business that they get to see grampa sleeping hooked up to a ventilator.

    Say no to them and you take your life in your hands


    My absolute favorite is the patient that has lived in the country for 20 years but doesn't speak a word of english..........until the family leaves...and amazingly they can say..blanket,hungry,thirsty,pain,pee,telephone,tel evision and the list goes on....family shows up and bam no english......what is up with that?
  12. by   Hellllllo Nurse
    Quote from career2
    I worked a 12 hour day without time to eat! Yes, other people besides nurses have high stress jobs. As I came home my two year old started projectile vomiting with green stuff coming out her nose! Next I waited an hour at the Childrens Hospital Oakland ER with no sign of any help or evaluation! My daughter spewing green stuff out her nose onto the floor in front of the nurses desk made no impression! I left Oakland drove the kid to John Muir ER in Walnut Creek! They were great. I watched her stop spewing vomit for the first time in three hours as they put a dose of phenergan in her vein. They admitted us to the pediatric ward. I got a few hours sleep on the floor next to her bed. Now 24 hours without food Im getting a little hungry. The kid is happy now. She is spinning around in circles trying to pull the IV out of her arm. The nurses do nothing to stop this. I ask them to take the IV out and they say nothing. They dont refuse or explain they just look at me and walk away. I have had no food for 30 hours! Excuse me I should know to EAT BEFORE I COME HERE! Or maybe I just have bad habits cause IM A MENTAL CASE!! MAYBE I USED MY WELFARE CHECK TO BY BOOZE AND CIGARETTES!

    If you really feel this way about your patients you need to find another line of work.

    Once you become a nurse, you will have a completely different view. Right now, you don't have a clue.
  13. by   ayndim
    Quote from career2
    I worked a 12 hour day without time to eat! Yes, other people besides nurses have high stress jobs. As I came home my two year old started projectile vomiting with green stuff coming out her nose! Next I waited an hour at the Childrens Hospital Oakland ER with no sign of any help or evaluation! My daughter spewing green stuff out her nose onto the floor in front of the nurses desk made no impression! I left Oakland drove the kid to John Muir ER in Walnut Creek! They were great. I watched her stop spewing vomit for the first time in three hours as they put a dose of phenergan in her vein. They admitted us to the pediatric ward. I got a few hours sleep on the floor next to her bed. Now 24 hours without food Im getting a little hungry. The kid is happy now. She is spinning around in circles trying to pull the IV out of her arm. The nurses do nothing to stop this. I ask them to take the IV out and they say nothing. They dont refuse or explain they just look at me and walk away. I have had no food for 30 hours! Excuse me I should know to EAT BEFORE I COME HERE! Or maybe I just have bad habits cause IM A MENTAL CASE!! MAYBE I USED MY WELFARE CHECK TO BY BOOZE AND CIGARETTES!

    If you really feel this way about your patients you need to find another line of work.
    The nurses do care about their patients but you weren't the patient, your child was! And nurses are not waitresses. If someone other than a patient needs to eat they should be able to fend for themselves, IMHO.

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