Do you have to deal with these? - page 5

do you have to deal with poo,pee and vomit in the ER if you're a RN? a PA? a NP? if yet, on a daily basis? just wondering. if this question sounds weird, dont mind me :rolleyes:... Read More

  1. by   z's playa
    did you start off nursing thinking you will be able to squash all the nasty things that you would have to deal with or were you "squeemish"

    Yeah I don't know what you mean by squash!
    When you say nasty things...just what are you talking about? Bugs? Zits?

    Or do you mean to refer to the act of suppressing thoughts of disgust? I'm sorry but when I think of squash I think of Gr. 4 . I just no longer use the word unless I'm squashing bugs. Or grapes in Sicily. :chuckle

    And please don't roll your eyes at me.

    This thread has gotten ridiculous. I feel we've answered the OP's question.

    Z
    Last edit by z's playa on Apr 17, '05
  2. by   Hellllllo Nurse
    Quote from Dixielee
    You have asked this same question on another thread. I know that you do not want to deal with any of the above, because you seem to be trying to find an area of nursing that doesn't have to deal with it. I have to ask the obvious question.....why do you want to be a nurse? It can't be for the money, the wonderful hours or the glory, so what is your motivation? You said in another thread you did not want to do patient care, IIRC. There are lots of good jobs out there that do not require care of ill or injured people. Perhaps you could seek them out.

    I know this sounds harsh, but nursing is a tough business. It is not for the weak and faint of heart. It requires day to day dealing with people who are very ill, perhaps dying. I do not want another nurse working with or near me who cannot or will not have the patients best interest at heart. If you are not willing to get down and dirty, you have no business being in nursing school. Yes, you may find a niche somewhere where you never have to smell anything bad, see anything disgusting, touch anything yucky, but you will miss all of the good stuff too.

    So find yourself a little ivory tower somewhere and live in it, but find another profession. If your main concern is your own inconvience, then you are not a collegue of mine.
    Excellent post.


    I am personally getting tired of all these "I-want-to-look-cool-wearing-scrubs-and-I-want-people-to-respect-me-as-a-nurse-and-I want-to-make-the-big-bucks-during-this-awesome-shortage-but-I-don't-really-want-to-actually-have-to-do-nursing" type of attitudes we've been seeing.
  3. by   head injury unit RN
    Quote from Dixielee
    You have asked this same question on another thread. I know that you do not want to deal with any of the above, because you seem to be trying to find an area of nursing that doesn't have to deal with it. I have to ask the obvious question.....why do you want to be a nurse? It can't be for the money, the wonderful hours or the glory, so what is your motivation? You said in another thread you did not want to do patient care, IIRC. There are lots of good jobs out there that do not require care of ill or injured people. Perhaps you could seek them out.

    I know this sounds harsh, but nursing is a tough business. It is not for the weak and faint of heart. It requires day to day dealing with people who are very ill, perhaps dying. I do not want another nurse working with or near me who cannot or will not have the patients best interest at heart. If you are not willing to get down and dirty, you have no business being in nursing school. Yes, you may find a niche somewhere where you never have to smell anything bad, see anything disgusting, touch anything yucky, but you will miss all of the good stuff too.

    So find yourself a little ivory tower somewhere and live in it, but find another profession. If your main concern is your own inconvience, then you are not a collegue of mine.
    WELL SAID--WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE NURSES WHO DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO CLEAN UP PEE, POOP, OR PUKE. YOU NEED TO BE IN THIS PROFESSION BECAUSE YOU LIKE TO TAKE CARE OF PEOPLE. IT'S NOT THAT HIGH PAYING OF A JOB FOR ALL THE MESSY STUFF YOU DO--HOWEVER IT IS VERY REWARDING ,PRESTIGIOUS JOB. IF YOU ARE STILL A STUDENT AND ALREADY LOOKING TO FIND A NSG JOB WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THOSE THINGS YOU REALLY OUGHT TO FIND A NEW CAREER ALSO.
  4. by   Fiona59
    Helllo Nurse --- THANK YOU for saying what I've been seeing....

    Its all about me, my career, my job security, WHAT you want me touch a patient?????

    I've seen so much of it from the students from the local university. The accelerated 2nd degree bunch are usually the worst. "I have a degree, taking care of the patient is an LPN's job, I'm going to be a care manager" actually said to me by a student.....
  5. by   Hellllllo Nurse
    Quote from nursestudentx
    no i dont think the nursing classes wiill be a breeze. not all all. but you had to admit that pharmacists and optometrists take more science classes than RNs. they're doctors..

    Umm....pharmacists are not doctors.
  6. by   z's playa
    Quote from Hellllllo Nurse
    Umm....pharmacists are not doctors.

    I know..I spit out my hot chocolate when I read THAT one.


    Z
  7. by   Hellllllo Nurse
    Quote from Fiona59
    Helllo Nurse --- THANK YOU for saying what I've been seeing....

    Its all about me, my career, my job security, WHAT you want me touch a patient?????

    I've seen so much of it from the students from the local university. The accelerated 2nd degree bunch are usually the worst. "I have a degree, taking care of the patient is an LPN's job, I'm going to be a care manager" actually said to me by a student.....


    Lordy. If these accelerated 2nd degree types you mention are the answer to the nursing "shortage" things are really going to go from bad to worse.
  8. by   Hellllllo Nurse
    This thread got me to thinking.....

    Some of the most poignant moments of my career have occurred while I was doing something gross.

    I remember a dying CA pt whom had vomited in her bathroom sink. I helped her get cleaned up, medicated her, and helped her back to bed.

    Then, I went back to deal with the sink. It had a drain screen, and had got plugged up. I was pulling chunks of vomit out of the drain w/ my gloved hand when the pt approached me to talk. She started crying from embarrassment. I kept cleaning w/ a smile on my face, and laughed with her to let her know she did not have to be self conscious around me. She began to relax, and said "I want to ask you something I've been afraid to ask anyone. I'm dying, aren't I?"

    This opened up a dialog between us, in which she was able to express her fears and get some information about her condition. I cared for her several more times in the next few weeks. She came to me with other concerns and issues during these times, and I was able to work w/ the pt, her doctors and social work to address her needs. This lady was able to accept that she was dying, and was at peace when the time came.
    Things might have ended differently if I had gotten all grossed out and run off to find someone else to deal with the mess.

    I will always remember the conversation that arose from cleaning vomit out of a sink.
    To me, this is nursing.
  9. by   z's playa
    Quote from Hellllllo Nurse
    This thread got me to thinking.....

    Some of the most poignant moments of my career have occurred while I was doing something gross.

    I remember a dying CA pt whom had vomited in her bathroom sink. I helped her get cleaned up, medicated her, and helped her back to bed.

    Then, I went back to deal with the sink. It had a drain screen, and had got plugged up. I was pulling chunks of vomit out of the drain w/ my gloved hand when the pt approached me to talk. She started crying from embarrassment. I kept cleaning w/ a smile on my face, and laughed with her to let her know she did not have to be self conscious around me. She began to relax, and said "I want to ask you something I've been afraid to ask anyone. I'm dying, aren't I?"

    This opened up a dialog between us, in which she was able to express her fears and get some information about her condition. I cared for her several more times in the next few weeks. She came to me with other concerns and issues during these times, and I was able to work w/ the pt, her doctors and social work to address her needs. This lady was able to accept that she was dying, and was at peace when the time came.
    Things might have ended differently if I had gotten all grossed out and run off to find someone else to deal with the mess.

    I will always remember the conversation that arose from cleaning vomit out of a sink.
    To me, this is nursing.

    Well you certainly defined the old "You know you were meant to be nurse when".......AND you know you're meant to be a nurse when a story like that moves you to tears of admiration and not tears of disgust.

    Thank you


    Z
  10. by   head injury unit RN
    Quote from nursestudentx
    thank you pam and others!

    i live with my parents because my school is a fifteen minute drive from my house and i do feel a lot of pressure from them. i think i would disappoint them a LOT if i dont figure out my career until im like in my thirties i told my parents that ive set my mind on nursing but they probably have no idea what nurses really do..how they have to "get down and get dirty" they do think that nursing is a hard laboring job though...the sad thing is when i told my parents that im interested in becoming a pharmacist or an optometrist my dad said do whatever i want to do but my mom thinks im nuts bcuz from what she told me she doesnt think i would study hard enough to make it..she thinks im going to cry and whine that im sick of studying and will want to quit..my dad didnt say that but i dont think he trusts that i will study hard to make it :stone i dont think im up for the challenge though..when i try i get good grades but i dont try often haha. ok i dont think this is a laughing matter. i really dont know what to do anymore. i thought i was set on studying nursing but now maybe im not cut out for it. what is cna btw? i just started working at a busy clothing store and i study full time so i dont have time to go visit a hospital to shadow or work. ive tried those skill/personality assessment tests online to see if those would help me decide on a career but i wasn't interested in any of them. any career advices for me? from what ive read and from what other nurses have advised me, i find nurses very informed in what goes on in this crazzzyyy world and know a lot of things that i for sure dont know about. what do your daughters and sons do for a living? :chuckle
    HI I AM THE DAUGHTER OF A NURSE WE ARE BOTH RN'S-- LIKE MANY HAVE SAID NURSING IS A HARD CAREER BUT VERY REWARDING. I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO BE A NURSE SINCE 7TH GRADE. I WENT TO COLLEGE RIGHT AFTER HIGHSCHOOL WAS A RN AT 21 YRS OLD. I'M NOW 25-- I AM A CHARGE NURSE IN A 17 BED HEAD INJURY UNIT, I LOVE MY JOB AND MY PATIENTS EVEN THOUGH SOME DAYS ARE TERRIBLE THERE. I CLEAN UP AND TAKE CARE OF EVERYTHING YOU CAN POSSIBLY THINK OF. MY MOM ENCOURAGED ME THRU OUT MY DAD SAID I WASN'T "COLLEGE MATERIAL" BOTH MOTIVATED ME----MY MOM TO MAKE HER PROUD MY DAD TO PROVE HIM WRONG. YOU SOUND VERY YOUNG YET ---GO TO COLLEGE FOR A DEGREE TOWARDS "GENERAL STUDIES"--- TAKE BASIC CLASSES THAT COULD BE USED FOR MANY DEGREES UNTIL YOU FIND WHAT YOU LIKE. WHAT CLASSES DID YOU LIKE/EXCEL AT IN HIGHSCHOOL???? SCIENCE BUSINESS TYPING MATH??? FROM YOUR COMMENTS IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU WANT TO WEAR "SCRUBS" AND HAVE THE GUYS/DOCS THINK YOUR CUTE. THE PAPERWORK U TALKED ABOUT IN ONE COMMENT WOULD BE A SECRETARY JOB. WHY NOT GO BE A "MEDICAL SECRETARY/UNIT CLERK" YOU CAN WEAR SCRUBS SEE DOCS AND NOT HAVE TO CLEAN UP THE "YUCKY" STUFF. IT SOUNDS LIKE A BETTER CHOICE THEN NURSING FOR YOU.
  11. by   Hellllllo Nurse
    Quote from z's playa
    Well you certainly defined the old "You know you were meant to be nurse when".......AND you know you're meant to be a nurse when a story like that moves you to tears of admiration and not tears of disgust.

    Thank you


    Z
    And thank you, z's playa.
  12. by   nursestudentx
    Quote from z's playa
    did you start off nursing thinking you will be able to squash all the nasty things that you would have to deal with or were you "squeemish"

    Yeah I don't know what you mean by squash!
    When you say nasty things...just what are you talking about? Bugs? Zits?

    Or do you mean to refer to the act of suppressing thoughts of disgust? I'm sorry but when I think of squash I think of Gr. 4 . I just no longer use the word unless I'm squashing bugs. Or grapes in Sicily. :chuckle

    And please don't roll your eyes at me.

    This thread has gotten ridiculous. I feel we've answered the OP's question.

    Z
    hmm. i wonder if nursing makes some people bitter or maybe youre so old now that a word like that seems too elementary for you

    it seems like all i have to do is go through nursing school and then i will be able to work at the setting that i choose! i know of clinics where it is very sanitary, but i doubt that the salary will be as high as nurses who work in the ED or the OB. im sure ill be able to find my niche after nursing school and all this is just me rambling because starting a new career scares everyone! :chuckle especially if it's your first one im still young so i have time to figure things out. for now im still going to pursue my nursing education. i love people contact and if i have to deal with some unsanitary situations during my rotations or whatnot ill hold my nose and get through it because ive talked to nurses before and they all loved their jobs! and who knows maybe ill get used to all the "gross" part of nursing or if i find myself having a real hard time with it then ill just be a nurse at a department where there is a lower "grossness" haha. or maybe i wont work in a hospital setting at all. but again maybe ill be over it quickly and be able to deal with it. now i can focus on my studies and hopefully i wont be so caught up with what life brings that ill be able to pursue a masters as well. i cant wait! :hatparty:

    im hoping that ill be a lucky nurse and deal with the least amound of bodily fluids while working and still make a great living. and never be jobless. HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA.
    Last edit by nursestudentx on Apr 18, '05
  13. by   caroladybelle
    Quote from Hellllllo Nurse
    Umm....pharmacists are not doctors.
    Actually guys.... Most places are requiring a PharmD degree to take Boards and become a licensed Pharmacist. That is a 7 year (?) degree and does entitle the pharmacist to be listed as Dr. So and So, as well as write some orders.

    While in the past, one may have only needed a Bachelor's (5 year program), or a Masters Degree, and I believe that previous pharmacists with licenses have been "grandfathered" in,the group that governs pharmacists have been phasing in the PharmD requirement.

    I only know this because I am friends with a rather chavinistic one that insists on the Dr and Mrs. (insert masculine first name) XXXXXX on all their addresses.

    I keep wanting to ask when his wife changed her first name to (insert masculine first name), just because I find it annoying.

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