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Do you disclose a positive urine HCG?



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No. 10
from Aneroo
Old Nov 09, 2008, 12:58 PM

Default Re: Do you disclose a positive urine HCG?
Originally Posted by Thornbird View Post
It's the same as any other test. Even if the doc is a jerk, it's up to him to discuss test results/dx with patient unless he tells you to do it. You should have brought it up to him first and offered to discuss it with her. Sounds like he just wanted to be done with her and would have been happy to have you do the work. His anger seems out of proportion to the facts though.
I agree.
What if she had a tumor that was causing the hcg to be produced? What if it were linked to her primary complaint and needed further intervention?
ETA- If they ask if their test results were back, my cover my butt answer was "I see they are back, but the doctor still needs to take a look at them".
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No. 11
from canoehead
Old Nov 09, 2008, 07:35 PM

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A pregnancy test being positive is not a sign of illness in a young female. It's something she can test for herself at home, does not require a prescription or a doc to do it. I feel the same way about glucose tests in diabetics. The patient did not need a doc to interpret the test, and nursing is qualified to do initial teaching on care of a pregnant woman. Totally different from a cancer or MI diagnosis, and the doc is/was an idiot.
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No. 12
Old Nov 11, 2008, 06:59 AM

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I'm not sure what flew up that doc's bonnet?
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No. 13
Old Nov 12, 2008, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Salls25 View Post
Working with a new-to-our-ER doc the other night


UHCG turned out to be positive, and became part of my counseling for home care teaching and pain control. I would not have normally just told a patient such a life altering result had I not already talked to her about her recently stopping the pill, her late cycle, and that she tested negative at home. Fortunately I had the tact to assess the patient's desire to keep her young child out of the loop by using adult-friendly terms "OB/GYN", "prenatal vitamins", ect.


clueless doc walks in a blurts "i guess you already know that you are pregnant" in front of the kid who clearly knew what that means.
First sentence. Problem is control issue with new ED doc.

Middle paragraph. You did the right thing, and you were the one that had the tact.

Last sentence. If that doc thought a positive HCG would not be pregnancy, he sure didn't tell the patient that. Tactless is an understatement.

From now on I would make it a point for the staff to do NOTHING that this doc could even mildly consider to be out of his "realm." It won't take long for him to see that your work helps him with the throughput, and that his attitude is slowing down the patient care. (Especially when you do not initiate any care that he did not specifically order.) Of course, this does not include true emergencies. Oh, and any questions from the patients should of course be directed to the PHYSICIAN, no matter how many times he has to go back to the patient's room to answer them.

btw you did the right thing.
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No. 14
Old Nov 15, 2008, 12:33 AM

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In our ER, I always run all test results, no matter how small, by the doc before saying anything to the pt. I think that is the way it should always be done.
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No. 15
Old Nov 15, 2008, 03:08 AM

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This situation just came up with me tonight. I ran the test and went back to the station to note,(girl was in for more than test) I told the doc the results of the test and let it go at that. As I was admitting pt, doc did tell me to go ahead and discuss test with pt. If he had not I would not have, a test is a test and in my facility you don't discuss any results without a doc okay.
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